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    Thanks, guys, for all the replies. All much appreciated. Keep them coming!

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    I use patterson reels.

    Second the recommendation to not get photo-flo on the spirals. Give them a good wash in dilute bleach, run a soft pencil round the groove and it should be nice and slick again.

    However, practice, practice. I prefer not to use the tape end. I sort of hold the reel with the entry tags directly under my finger and thumb and have got used to sort of "sliding" the end of the film down my finger and thumb so the edges drop neatly into the entry to the reel. I use a three finger grip on the film with my right hand with edges held by thumb and middle finger and my first finger is then free to guide the centre of the film. I also reverse bend the first 1/4" of the film slightly. Difficult to describe but I now get the end in 1st time 50% of the time and second time 90%. With only occasional struggle.

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    Here is a thread devoted to the differences between the old and current design of the Jobo reels:

    http://www.apug.org/forums/forum43/1...new-style.html

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    But hewes stainless reels. Do not pass go.
    Stop worrying about grain, resolution, sharpness, and everything else that doesn't have a damn thing to do with substance.

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    Like others have said. Practice and pencil trick is what made the difference. Now I can load 2 x 120 rolls on single reel. I've no issues with photo flow. I just make sure I rinse the reels well in hot water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuff View Post
    Like others have said. Practice and pencil trick is what made the difference. Now I can load 2 x 120 rolls on single reel. I've no issues with photo flow. I just make sure I rinse the reels well in hot water.
    I always remove the film then seesaw the film in a bowl of photo flow separately, never have problems with the reels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fotch View Post
    I always remove the film then seesaw the film in a bowl of photo flow separately, never have problems with the reels.
    This is easy to do with 120, much more difficult with long, tangle-prone 35mm....
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    One can just twist open a plastic reel with film, turn it over and let the film fall into a container with final rinse.

    So, one has to distinguish whether this procedure or doing the final rinse with the film still on the reels, twisting them open and taking up the film from the lower reel is running less chance to scratch the emulsion.

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    I've had good luck with Paterson reels. Mine are so old, over thirty years, that they must be the genuine article. As others have said the reels must be absolutely clean and dry. I run mine disassembled through the dishwasher, top rack, and then blast them with a hair dryer just before use. So far, no problems.... BTW, for whatever reason my past mojo for loading 35mm on SS reels has deserted me. So I do 35mm on the Paterson also.

    I do find that the lid can be difficult to unscrew sometimes. I wonder if just the tiniest smear of silicone grease on the threads would help. The stuff used for O rings in faucets doesn't seem to migrate at hot water heater temperatures. Any thoughts out there?

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    Just an update, I purchased a Hewes SS reel and have been practicing...already feels a LOT easier to me than the plastic reels. My takeaway, which is likely frustrating to others in its ambiguousness, but hopefully offers a ray of hope is this - there are different solutions and there is no such thing as the right solution. There is only the right solution for you. The upside is that, if one way isn't working, you have plenty of other options and you will settle on something that works for you.

    The other thing here (and this is really talking to myself (as opposed to directing this at any of you personally)) is that I have to separate the craft of photography from the art. Everyone wants to be great at the "art" part, but a smaller number seem to want to work in the trenches at the "craft" part. There are no shortcuts - if there were, everyone would know them and take them and we'd all be named Adams, Weston, Penn, Avedon, etc.

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