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    Quote Originally Posted by Alessandro Serrao View Post
    R 09
    As Rezept #09?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miha View Post
    As Rezept #09?
    Exactly, R10 was also a p-aminophenol developer but quite different as it used the hydrochloride salt and Carbonate, it was two part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    Part of the problem then was the names belonged to Agfa and not the companies that took over parts of the former consumer photo division and some coating/chemistry.
    That is incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alessandro Serrao View Post
    R 09
    Exactly, R10 was also a p-aminophenol developer but quite different as it used the hydrochloride salt and Carbonate, it was two part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgX View Post
    That is incorrect.
    The trade names belonged to Agfa who registered them, the rights to use them may well have been passed on but then some were already owned by other companies outside Germany which makes them unusable wolrd wide.

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    AgX pointed out some news from just over 2 weeks ago that I'd missed, production of Rodinal R09 has moved. So this may be the issue the clone version.

    Ian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alessandro Serrao View Post
    I will stick only with Kodak products. In 15 years they never let me down a SINGLE time.
    So you didn't use the 1liter package of XTOL? I did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    Unfortunately because John of J&C in the US the Rodinal trade name can't be used any longer, he registered the it there Agfa is still in existance but have no financial interest in resolving trade name issues for companies they sold off.
    That registration was cancelled on May 22, 2013.

    As of August 4, 2013, Adox has applied for the trademark.

    There are links in there to the USPTO trademark database, but for some reason they don't get highlighted in my browser unless I move the cursor over them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Toner View Post
    That registration was cancelled on May 22, 2013.

    As of August 4, 2013, Adox has applied for the trademark.

    There are links in there to the USPTO trademark database, but for some reason they don't get highlighted in my browser unless I move the cursor over them...
    Well that shows it's an ongoing situation and potentially better news if Mirko controls the Rodinal brand name in the US.

    The links have timed out as theyn were for your session (IP).

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    I think that APUG should have a separate sub-forum dedicated just to the permutations and combinations of the corporations that have sprung from Agfa, the products that originated from those corporations, the entities that are or have in the past either manufactured or distributed those products, and the current versions of them all.

    It would help if someone would post tables or charts
    Matt

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