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    Just a thought, has anyone actually got a response from Kodak about the production of sheet film?

    It is usual that the base material for sheets is much thicker, or completely different (for Kodak's 'Estar' polyester tradename). If sheets are cut from the same big reels as the 35mm and 16mm stock, then won't they be sub-optimally floppy??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinP View Post
    Just a thought, has anyone actually got a response from Kodak about the production of sheet film?

    It is usual that the base material for sheets is much thicker, or completely different (for Kodak's 'Estar' polyester tradename). If sheets are cut from the same big reels as the 35mm and 16mm stock, then won't they be sub-optimally floppy??
    The guy (Keith) said Kodaks response was good but in order for them to give him the financial details and do the research he needed to get up a list of potential buyers before they would actually do the work, so the more the merrier.

    It's kodak, they wouldn't cut something on a base if it would be crappy and give them bad publicity... IF they cut it, I'm sure it will be stable.
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    I've got questions about the base as well, I shoot a lot of 5222 in 35mm, and can't quite reconcile that film thickness in a film holder… Now that I said that I'm going to go see how much thinner it seems than HP5+ sheet film. Back shortly.

    I don't have anything that will give a numerical measurement, but two layers of Double-X are ever so thicker than one layer of HP5 8x10 film. Now to see if I can find some micron measurements for both bases somewhere…


    From Simon Galley via APUG:
    175 micron polyester sheet film base
    From here:
    Kodak VISION Color Print Film (ESTAR) base has a nominal thickness of 0.0047 inches (119 microns).
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    Double X is on an acetate base, for the record...

    http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploa...22_techpub.pdf

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    Kodak Double X

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl A View Post
    Double X is on an acetate base, for the record...

    http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploa...22_techpub.pdf
    Thanks, I'm getting confused between the LFF and APUG threads and also there are a few APUG versions of this thread... Lol, they need to be merged or something because I thought I posted that link on here but it was apparently only on the other thread.
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    Ya, posting of identical messages to multiple boards confuses me too. I get so confused that I stop reading all of them. Ha ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianShaw View Post
    Ya, posting of identical messages to multiple boards confuses me too. I get so confused that I stop reading all of them. Ha ha.
    I kind of have to read them all since I started this whole thing.... Lol
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    I have committed 10 boxes, and I want to know will Kodak supply 120 format 5222 for group buy option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmma View Post
    I have committed 10 boxes, and I want to know will Kodak supply 120 format 5222 for group buy option?
    There's some question about whether the 35mm film base is thick enough to work when cut into 4x5 sheets; for 120 I believe it's too thick! Wouldn't the normal length of film and paper rolled together on a spool be too big a diameter to fit in a lot of cameras?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl A View Post
    Double X is on an acetate base, for the record...

    http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploa...22_techpub.pdf
    Then, this (also from APUG) should help:
    There are two basic types of film stock: Triacetate & Polyester.

    Triacetate stock made by Kodak has a nominal base thickness of 142 microns. (0.0056")
    Polyester stock made by Kodak has a nominal base thickness of 119 microns. (0.0046")

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