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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    I use two black and white films - Plus-X and TMY-2.

    When my Plus-X is gone, I'll transition to T-Max.

    Both Plus-X and TMY-2 appeal to my sensibilities. I will have to work a bit, but I'm sure T-Max will be fine too.
    If you like Plus-X why switch to a tabular film like TMX when you run out, in preference to, say, FP4+? The latter isn't identical to Plus-X by any means but for me it's a lot more like it than TMX is. If the new attempt at something like APX 100 is good that might be a choice too.

    Just asking, I'm not a t-grain hater by any means but I used to use Plus-X and I've found I really like FP4+ now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    It doesn't matter. Not even a bit.

    Either you're good at making photographs, or you're not. The film? Not worth thinking too much about.
    Well said, as always.

    I love regular films, and from using them over the years I've come to like TMY/TMY-II...that's just my personal style/decision. I respect the OP's just as much, although not sure I'd use the terminology he did.
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    I've never tried them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Cole View Post
    If you like Plus-X why switch to a tabular film like TMX when you run out, in preference to, say, FP4+? The latter isn't identical to Plus-X by any means but for me it's a lot more like it than TMX is. If the new attempt at something like APX 100 is good that might be a choice too.

    Just asking, I'm not a t-grain hater by any means but I used to use Plus-X and I've found I really like FP4+ now.
    I have a lifelong attachment to Kodak - so if I am going to have to switch, I will tend to look for a Kodak alternative.

    I've shot some T-Max before, and like the fact that it shares the same development time with TMY-2 for a lot of developers.

    I like and respect and highly recommend Ilford products, but when you have a father who worked 36 years for Kodak, and grew up with Kodak people all around you, sometimes you make decisions that take into account other factors than those that might apply to others.

    And a choice of T-Max is certainly not a compromise!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    I have a lifelong attachment to Kodak - so if I am going to have to switch, I will tend to look for a Kodak alternative.

    I've shot some T-Max before, and like the fact that it shares the same development time with TMY-2 for a lot of developers.

    I like and respect and highly recommend Ilford products, but when you have a father who worked 36 years for Kodak, and grew up with Kodak people all around you, sometimes you make decisions that take into account other factors than those that might apply to others.

    And a choice of T-Max is certainly not a compromise!
    Makes sense and nope, certainly not a compromise at all. TMX is a great film, its just less similar to Plus-X than FP4+ is.

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    I have made beautiful 16x20 prints from TMax100 in HC-110 (obviously biased about the quality).

    Don't use it now due to the UV blocking is has (but not in TMax400) since I alt process w/ UV light. Use FP4+ mostly for that now.

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    The Tmax family has worked fine for me.

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    My best work is on TMY. I've switched to HP5+, but only because 5x7 and 8x10 TMY sheets are now special order. I have yet to make prints from HP5 negatives which rival my efforts on TMY. I've had to change my process a lot. You can make beautiful prints from negatives shot on any film.
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    I uploaded a print (Heart Lake) taken on TMY-2 to the gallery to illustrate this discussion.

    Having long-preferred fine-grain traditional film (you know, Panatomic-X) for nature photography, I was making a change to 4x5 and decided to give TMAX 400 a try. The first real trip, the section of John Muir Trail from Reds Meadows to Florence Lake, I brought back photographs that gave me all the qualities I expect from black and white film photography.

    Since I love the photographs, I simply transfer that feeling to the film.

    Cliveh, you can easily see the differences between a traditional and a tabular grain film, and I assume that you don't like the oversharpened effect that is so common today... But in specific cases, your prejudice might be broken down if you get to know it ... one print at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post

    Films are as good as their users and poor workmen blame their tools. There aren't nay poor films available these days they are all cpable of excellent results once you tame them.

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    Well said Ian.

    As for OP, you just need to do some real testing to find out your way with T-grain. Many did it already, so can you. Just believe in it.



 

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