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    need help with deveping times for XTOL replenished

    I read the many threads on XTOL replenishment and thought i would give it a try. It sounds like i will get the results I'm after. but the question i kept coming up with is once the developer is seasoned, what are the appropriate developing times. I have the kodak fact sheet and it lists a few time, but most are in whole steps from box speed.

    So what can i use a good starting point for the seasoned stuff? Someone said around the 1+2 dilution. But I wanted to get some advice from those of you with experience. I could always do it mathematically, extrapolating the time differences between kodak's stock and replenished times, but who wants to play around with excell?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by destroya View Post
    I read the many threads on XTOL replenishment and thought i would give it a try. It sounds like i will get the results I'm after. but the question i kept coming up with is once the developer is seasoned, what are the appropriate developing times. I have the kodak fact sheet and it lists a few time, but most are in whole steps from box speed.

    So what can i use a good starting point for the seasoned stuff? Someone said around the 1+2 dilution. But I wanted to get some advice from those of you with experience. I could always do it mathematically, extrapolating the time differences between kodak's stock and replenished times, but who wants to play around with excell?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    john
    I have used replenished Xtol for about five years, and the 1+2 recommendation is a good one. Of course there are individual differences in how we shoot and process, which means adjustments have to be made to get the contrast you want in your negatives.

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    Which film? Kodak's J-109 document gives times for replenished for all Kodak, Ilford, and Fuji b+w films.
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    I shoot Panf, fp4, tri-x, ultrafine X-treme 100 and rollei retro 80s in 35mm. in 120 I shoot tmax 100 and 400 acros and tri-x 400.

    I found times for most but the kodak sheet shows box speed as the slowest and i shoot below box on almost all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by destroya View Post
    I shoot Panf, fp4, tri-x, ultrafine X-treme 100 and rollei retro 80s in 35mm. in 120 I shoot tmax 100 and 400 acros and tri-x 400.

    I found times for most but the kodak sheet shows box speed as the slowest and i shoot below box on almost all of them.
    You still must have a hunch roughly how much you compensate based on past experience?!
    If not, you must test anyway to optimize the process for how you shoot. I guess that's the problem with using so many films, though. Tough to fully learn any of them fully and how they respond to development adjustments.
    It took me a couple of hundred rolls of TMax 400 in order to really learn how it works with Xtol.
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    I usually start with +20% initially and adjust from there.



 

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