No, my #500 holder holds single sheets - intended for the Type 55. I believe it's the oldest version. But that's why I'm hoping it will also work for the new55.
Originally Posted by StoneNYC
I also have a version of the Polaroid 405 that holds pack film.
I have this one - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Polaroid-500...-/281251306123
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Originally Posted by Ken Nadvornick
And knowing that you got the shot before you leave - "priceless". Seriously, even with the need to clear in Sodium Sulfite, if you're traveling a distance with your 4x5, it's nice to know what you've got before you drive or fly away.
And I still have a 545 holder and an original clearing tank. Just never got around to selling them after Polaroid went under. Sometimes better to be lucky than smart.
"Far more critical than what we know or do not know is what we do not want to know." - Eric Hoffer
Absolutely. As would be the ability to provide a souvenir of the encounter. When using the Graflite on the Crown I usually pop the (cooled) flashbulb that was used into the subject's hands for them to keep. They always love that. Being able to add an instant print would be just perfect.
Originally Posted by mgb74
That alone would make a $6 cost worth it to me. I would just be careful not to expose 50 sheets a day.
"When making a portrait, my approach is quite the same as when I am portraying a rock. I do not wish to impose my personality upon the sitter, but, keeping myself open to receive reactions from his own special ego, record this with nothing added: except of course when I am working professionally, when money enters in,—then for a price, I become a liar..."
— Edward Weston, Daybooks, Vol. II, February 2, 1932
I can't answer that, I'm already confused now, I'm pretty sure the holder 500 is the older version of 545 but I can't be sure, but it looks the same.
Originally Posted by winger
I know someone told me they COULD be used with quick loads but that the quick load holder is technically better since it was designed for quick loads, and the ready loads are I think the correct for 545 but again, the info is sort of scattered.
I think to ME this is one of the main reasons polaroid failed, because all of their equipment and film was a big jumbled mess, pro's who had "been around" knew what was going on but everyone else was confused as f-ck about what goes with what, and prevented a lot of amateur sales that would have kept the company going.
Streamlining your products is an important part of business that Polaroid and many others didn't quite get (even kodak got that you label the camera and the film with the same number...)
IE all "type 100" 3ishx4ish size pack film should have been labeled 100 ... Period... 100 - blue, 100 - sepia, 100 - B 100 - C
All 4x5 pack film should have been 145 labeled... 145 blue, 145 sepia, 145-B 145-C or whatever etc...
The whole 664, 669, T55, T56 etc etc makes no sense and is just confusing to potential new customers...
Stone... 545 holders actually work better with BOTH Quickloads and single-sheet Readyloads than the official holders from either Fuji or Kodak. But there's some heavy junk in the 545 you don't need - namely, you can drop the rollers out and plug the light holes, and end up with a very
reliable holder at half the wt of the original (but no longer good for instant films). A relatively useless academic fact at this point, unless someone is lucky enough to round up a bunch of remaining Quickload or Readyload film. I'm sure going to miss that system for backpacking!
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But the quickload (or maybe ready load?) ... The Kodak one... Is so light and plasticky, I can't imagine the Polaroid one is lighter even with parts taken out.
Originally Posted by DREW WILEY
If Bob can get this going, and the price is not too bad, this will be, imo, a huge deal. I have no problem being a guinea pig for this project whatsoever
Originally Posted by jcc
The project is moving toward commercialization now. A possible Kickstarter -- if it were successful -- would ensure that something like 5,000 units (a unit is a box of 5 sheets) would ship to contributors about 8 months from end of Kickstarter project (Kickstarter projects tend to last no longer than 30 days).
After that, full-scale production would depend on the ability of the project to move successfully toward incorporation.
Nothing's granted for sure. Stay tuned on the website or other media feeds & locations.
That's exactly what I've thought, time and again. It's even harder coming into it now that most of the stuff's disappeared, there's dribs and drabs spread around the internet but nothing concrete.
Originally Posted by StoneNYC
Even Impossible live up to their name, their data is just as impossible to follow.
"SX70 film for SX70 cameras" - yeah, that's nice, but what about backs? They barely rate a mention, except some that say "we don't make film for them".
Fuji don't help either, they may make film but they don't use Polaroid's numbering scheme either.
I tried to find backs for both my Mamiya 645AF and Hasselbladski. You think I could find anything about what type of film they took? Obviously not the 'real' 4x5, but do they take '600' type, or 'sx70' type (or some other type?), any information? Some are labelled as "for peel-apart" type film, that's nice, but does that mean sheet or pack?
Nothing, not a clue to be found anywhere.
In the end, I took a $50 gamble and just bought a "polaroid holder" for my m645AF. Turns out it took packfilm. Took another $20 gamble and bought some FP3000B. Turns out it fits the holder. Still wasn't sure if that meant it was '600' or 'sx70' type or something else.
Took another $60 gamble, bought a "polaroid packfilm holder missing darkslide". Turns out my pack of FP3000B fits it. So I'm presuming it's a 405 holder, it looks like this one. Cut a 4x5 darkslide down to fit. So now I've got some FP3000B and FP100C, and holders that fit my 645AF and 4x5, and I'm locked into these two Fujis until I take a gamble on something Impossible to find out if it does or doesn't fit.
Seriously, we need a sticky in the 'polaroid' subforum called 'navigating the minefiled of film numbers, packs, and holders', with a giant matrix of everything there ever is and was, what holder it fits into, and what camera the holder attaches to.
An awful lot of electrons were terribly inconvenienced in the making of this post.
f/64 and be there.
Right-on adelorenzo! You can help ... by communicating to anyone you know who loves the ground-glass.
So, here's our market: all humans with 4x5 cameras (or -- among those other people -- those who are dreaming of working slower someday). In marketing terms, that's a well-defined space and something like a gift.
To be successful, a Kickstarter project needs over 1,000 contributors from North America, about 1,000 from EU, and about 500 from Asia (Kickstarter reward structure TBD). All the same, we don't know how many people are out there.
It could be just you guys (& gals) on this thread. And all that excitement over there in social media could be you guys (& gals) too. We'd like to see our skepticism disproven -- emphatically -- which is why we are setting a high Kickstarter goal (if it's approved).