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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo Miranda View Post
    Yes, I heard that many times but: business is business. Maybe Extreme 100 and 400 is Pan 100 and 400, maybe Kentmere. Pan is made for certain areas in the world, you can buy it in some European countries and Asia, but not in America (the North one). On the other hand it may be a batch, which for some reason didn't pass Harman QC, but still good. I find Extreme 100 & 400 in 135 format a good, reliable film and with the price of $30 per 100' worthy to be used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mklw1954 View Post
    You just have to try a roll or two and see for yourself as Ultrafine will not indicate who makes it. I've developed these films in D76 stock solution at their recommended times, 68F, and Ilford agitation (4 inversions over the first 10 seconds, repeat every minute).

    I think the following are very good films:
    Xtreme 100-135 (8 min. in D76 stock), Xtreme 400-135 (7 min. in D76 stock), Xtreme 400 in 120 (7.75 min. in
    D76 stock).

    Plus 100 in 120 is very poor quality and I would never use it again.

    I noticed recently that Ultrafine is now selling Xtreme 100 in 120 and I plan to try it.
    Wow! I hadn't checked their site lately and you're right. I'm curious about this stuff too. If it is the same as the Ultrafine Extreme 100 135 film I'll buy a bunch, but I have a feeling it's not. Might be Foma 100? If that's the case I'll just buy Arista EDU 100 120 from Freestyle for less cost. I'll let somebody else be guinea pig first. Anybody?

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    dont waste your time with the 120 100 ISO films.. just aweful. It's imprinted with frame number and dots all over the film. Very disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddB View Post
    dont waste your time with the 120 100 ISO films.. just aweful. It's imprinted with frame number and dots all over the film. Very disappointing.

    Todd
    Todd, I couldn't agree more about the Ultrafine Plus 100 in 120, but this is a different film. This is Ultrafine Extreme 100 in 120 and hopefully a much better film than the "Plus" version. Of course, that wouldn't take much would it? Have you tried both the Ultrafine plus 100 and the newer Ultrafine Extreme 100 in 120 size?

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    Sorry no.. after my experiance with last batch, I want noting to do with thier product in film anyway. Thier papers are pretty decent. I'll stick with Ilford Delta.

    Todd

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    i asked ultrafine about the xtreme 100 in 120. They said it is the same emulsion as the 35mm film. Thats great news. this also gives us a little more info about who makes the film. Kentmere does not come in 120 sizes. but the ilford pan 100 and 400 does. the box of the 120 400 xtreme screams ilford.

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    If made by Harman, they are perfectly capable of making a good and usable film which is measurably different to the other products - they are not trapped in to having a couple of emulsions to do everything! They are the world-leader in manufacturing black-and-white products to contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by destroya View Post
    i asked ultrafine about the xtreme 100 in 120. They said it is the same emulsion as the 35mm film. Thats great news. this also gives us a little more info about who makes the film. Kentmere does not come in 120 sizes. but the ilford pan 100 and 400 does. the box of the 120 400 xtreme screams ilford.
    I've never used Ilford Pan 100 or 400, but if it's truly the same emulsion as the Xtreme 100 135 film I'm in for sure. I really do like the Xtreme 100 135 stuff and the price is darn good in bulk anyway. I was going to order another 100' of xtreme 100 in 35mm tonight and might just have them throw in a couple of rolls of Xtreme 100 in 120 just to try with some pyro developer. The 35mm Xtreme in Pyrocat-MC or WD2D+ is very, very nice. I got my fingers crossed!

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    what times do you use for the x100 in pyro? I have some pyro HD but have yet to use it with the xtreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JW PHOTO View Post
    I've never used Ilford Pan 100 or 400, but if it's truly the same emulsion as the Xtreme 100 135 film I'm in for sure. I really do like the Xtreme 100 135 stuff and the price is darn good in bulk anyway. I was going to order another 100' of xtreme 100 in 35mm tonight and might just have them throw in a couple of rolls of Xtreme 100 in 120 just to try with some pyro developer. The 35mm Xtreme in Pyrocat-MC or WD2D+ is very, very nice. I got my fingers crossed!

    It won't be the same as Ilford Pan 100 or 400, because Harman refuses to sell any of there Ilford or Kentmere labelled film with any other labeling.

    But the films could be similar.
    Matt

    “Photography is a complex and fluid medium, and its many factors are not applied in simple sequence. Rather, the process may be likened to the art of the juggler in keeping many balls in the air at one time!”

    Ansel Adams, from the introduction to The Negative - The New Ansel Adams Photography Series / Book 2

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