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    Quote Originally Posted by hgraf View Post
    Which reel do you use?

    ............. but the Paterson plastic reels are so easy, my first practice attempt was perfect. I haven't had a SINGLE reel that didn't turn out perfectly.

    Even in 120, while it took me a little longer the first time, it went on the reel without issue. 36 exposure films go on just as easy as 24. It is an amazing system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotch View Post
    Unless they are damp or wet. Like anything, your mileage my very.
    I didn't think of that. Never have tried to load a wet reel. I can see that being a problem, considering the Paterson slides the film into the spiral, vs. the steel reels that don't.

    I'll keep that issue in mind, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RattyMouse View Post
    Is this really true? Photo Flo causes of if it even thinks about going into water. I always see a lot of foam when rinsing with Photo Flo.
    What you want Photo Flo to achieve is to relieve the water of its surface tension. You don't need much to do that. If you use too much wetting agent, it may leave residue behind that is unwanted.

    PhotoFlo is supposed to be used at a 1:200 concentration, so if you have 500ml of water, you need 2.5ml of PhotoFlo. There used to be a very concentrated PhotoFlo 600, which was supposed to be used at 1:600. Tough to measure such small quantities.
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    I guess it depends on how you use it. I keep tempered water in a separate bowl, and I add the appropriate amount of wetting agent to it.
    Then off the reel I see saw the length of the film through the solution, ten times. No bubbles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RattyMouse View Post
    I have a pipette that can accurately measure 2.5 mls. That will generate a LOT of foam in the final rinse. A LOT. That is why I questioned the person who said that if you are seeing foam, you are using too much. A few drops gets you foam, much less than 2.5 mls.
    You are probably agitating too much. And it isn't a "rinse", it is a "soak".

    Here is what Kodak suggests for the 30 seconds the film is supposed to be in the mixed solution: "Provide gentle agitation for 5 seconds of the total time. To reduce drying scum, mix KODAK PHOTO-FLO Solution with distilled water in areas that have hard water."

    You should also mix the working solution up gently - stirring isn't required.

    I mix my working solution up during the development stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RattyMouse View Post
    Do you mix in the photo flo? This is a surfactant and requires mechanical energy to disperse through out the fluid. It will not arrange into micelles without mixing energy.

    I get enormous bubbles just gently swirling the mixture. Then when adding a reel into the tank, at least 1 inch of bubbles forms. The film comes out coated in bubbles.
    I don't use PhotoFlo. I use Sprint End Run.

    My negatives dry without a single spot on them. I'm not making that up either. A lot of my prints require zero spotting.

    No swirling or mixing, I just lightly swish around with my finger, to avoid making bubbles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RattyMouse View Post
    Ah, OK, so our experiences are different.

    I never get drying marks either, nor do I get photo flo residues. I just cannot reconcile how anyone could not get foam. I get plenty of foam using 3-4 drops of photo flow!
    I think most people are using less than what Kodak recommends, and still have good results.

    My reason for not putting wetting agent in the tank and among the reels is that I am unable to clean the reels well enough to avoid getting bubbles in the developer next time I process film.

    Many here favor the Edwal LFN product.

    Kodak Photo Flo 200 has instructions for how to use it here, just for the record:
    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/profe...bs/aj3/aj3.pdf
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    I put my reels (stainless) through the dishwasher every couple of months. No buildup of residue. I have a half gallon of Photo Flo 1:600. I mix it about 1:3000 and give my film a water rinse for a couple of seconds before hanging up to dry. Never a problem with spots. Guess I should order another bottle before I run out. ;<)
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    I add the Photoflo to the water, not the water to the Photoflo. I think that's why you're getting so much foam. When I've seen significant bubbles, I've had poor drying and water spots. So I keep the amount of Photoflo to a minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winger View Post
    I add the Photoflo to the water, not the water to the Photoflo. I think that's why you're getting so much foam. When I've seen significant bubbles, I've had poor drying and water spots. So I keep the amount of Photoflo to a minimum.
    Almost +1 - I do add a little water to the mix at the end.
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