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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Rose
    can you provide a version in Excel? Please...
    Sure, I've just posted a new version of the page (with dilutions for the Euro version of HC-110 concentrate included), and added a link to the Excel file used to create the tables.

    Donald - I don't have Netscape installed, but I had Dreamweaver "clean up" the HTML. Is it better now?
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    Good Afternoon, Jeff,

    Did you make a time adjustment for the weaker solution? H is 1:63 compared to B's 1:31.

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    This is great work. Am thinking of using hc110 when I start doing large format. Seems economical

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konical
    Good Afternoon, Jeff,

    Did you make a time adjustment for the weaker solution? H is 1:63 compared to B's 1:31.

    Konical

    Yeah, I started off for 12 minutes in 68 degrees, which was a a little contrasty for "normal"- I should probably be using about 10 minutes for normal.

    Here is my curve shot at e.i. 50. Looks like it still needs another stop of exposure:

    http://www.hiddenworld.net/misc/curve.jpg

    (density on the y axis, exposure zone on the x axis)

    No big deal. Guess I was interested if I'm the only one here who notices that.

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    Thanks Bob, that's a great chart!

    Jeff, your findings are interesting for me. I haven't performed any measurements on my results, but always rate Tri-x 320 at 160 and FP4+ at 80 for processing in HC110. I've found this generally does give a 'better' negative for me (specifically denser and with greater tonal separations, more to my liking). It has the effect of lifting the overall exposure of the film away from the toe. So in that sense, gives predictable results.

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    OT slightly but I'm in Europe and have been buying HC110 both in France and Italy. I have never seen HC110 in anything other than concentrate (i.e. 1:31 for dilution B). Is the "European" soup maybe a thing of the distant past, like old Tri-X: we keep hearing about it, but in effect it has disappeared years ago?

    Oh, and I'll ditto John on both the 320TXP and the FP4 speeds for HC110 in sheet films. FWIW...
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    How come I have never seen the European HC-110 when I live in Denmark. I have only seen the concentrate...

    Morten

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    HC110 is sold in Europe as a "less concentrated syrup" (Kodak Cat #500 1466). Dilution B, for example, would be 1:9 using this developer.

    This information is at the Covvington site.

    It is possible that it has been discontinued and the other HC110 is the only available.

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    I buy the bottle that looks like this:


    It is 1 litre concentrated. I use it 1+31 (B).

    Morten

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobfowler
    Donald - I don't have Netscape installed, but I had Dreamweaver "clean up" the HTML. Is it better now?
    Yes, looked at it a few minutes ago, it's perfect.
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