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    Centennial Printing-Out Paper

    I've been thinking of trying some of this paper (J&C carries it in 8X10 and 11X14). My question - is fixing in plain hypo enough for making a permanent image, or does one have to use the suggested gold toner? Are other toners suitable for this paper?
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    Fixing in plain hypo should be enough but it is advised to use a toner. You can also use Selenium toner with this paper. It should come with instructions, if not Centennial's site should have the info.

    It's actual made by Kentmere, in the UK to an original formula from the Chicago Albumen works and sold under the Cenntenial Brand
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    Selenium toner (at least Kodak's KRST) tends to bleach the image more than I like at concentrations large enough to be any use.

    So far I have had varied, but all good, results with Tetenal gold toner. At some point in the future I intend to try Palladium
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    I've gold toned it first and then followed up with selenium toning with no bleaching. I used Fotospeed selenium.
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    The stuff has a sort of unpleasant orangish cast if untoned. I also have not had very good luck with selenium toner with it due to the aforementioned bleaching. (Kodak RST is compounded with large proportion of ammonium thiosulphate which bleaches the delicate silver image.)

    My favorite toner for POP is a thiourea-gold toner. IIRC, I originally found that formula online at unblinkingeye.com in an article on van dyke brownprinting (by White?). I think it is referred to as "Clerc's gold toner." It produces sort of a cool purplish/lavender to on the paper. The Bostick and Sullivan website also has a list of gold toner formulae.

    BTW Bob, I'm about to complete the construction of my first Packard Shutter box today so I can use an old 8 3/4" Verito on my Deardorff 5x7 camera and have it synch to a flash. This first one isn't very pretty, but I think it will do the trick. Thanks for the inspiration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smieglitz
    The stuff has a sort of unpleasant orangish cast if untoned. I also have not had very good luck with selenium toner with it due to the aforementioned bleaching. (Kodak RST is compounded with large proportion of ammonium thiosulphate which bleaches the delicate silver image.)

    My favorite toner for POP is a thiourea-gold toner. IIRC, I originally found that formula online at unblinkingeye.com in an article on van dyke brownprinting (by White?). I think it is referred to as "Clerc's gold toner." It produces sort of a cool purplish/lavender to on the paper. The Bostick and Sullivan website also has a list of gold toner formulae.

    BTW Bob, I'm about to complete the construction of my first Packard Shutter box today so I can use an old 8 3/4" Verito on my Deardorff 5x7 camera and have it synch to a flash. This first one isn't very pretty, but I think it will do the trick. Thanks for the inspiration.

    Joe
    Thanks guys, I'll probably try it with Formulary's CAW POP Toner. Their thiourea toner also sounds interesting.

    Joe - You mean somebody actually not only READ my article but BUILT a box lens board? Woohoo! I'm honored Let me know how it works out for you.

    The scan doesn't do it justice, but this was shot using a 12" Apo Artar (not a Red Dot) on J&C Classic 200 with a Packard in a box lens board. 1/15th sec @ f/32, "G" filter.
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