cold tone paper & toners

[gary bridges]

I would like to know what those of you who like cold tone black and white prints use - as far as papers & developers go - thanks in advance for all of the info

[Wally H]

Ilford's MG FB for paper and Photographer's Formulary BW65 developer

[Shmoo]

Oriental graded fiber paper...

[Gary Grenell]

I think that you can get Jim Dandy results with any of the main papers: Oriental, Kodak, Ilford, Brilliant, etc. There are subtle differences between them, some negs may print better on some than others. So too with developers, they all have slightly different characteristics. None is "better" than another. Just don't make yourself too crazy (as I have done). If you have a slightly indecisive or obsessive compulsive streak (as I do) you can drive yourself batty looking for the "better" materials. Far, far better to stick to one and get to thoroughly know its characteristics. (Easier said than done). You know what happens: you see one exquisite photograph shot with a different film than you are using or printed on a different paper, and voila: you've sent off sixty bucks to New York to try it out.

[Gim]

I also like Oriental and use it with Dektol. The "Darkroom Cookbook" has some cold tone developers if you want to mix it yourself. Oriental graded (have not use VC) and a little selenium...great!

Jim

[Phillip P. Dimor]

Definitely go for selenium toning.. Also benzotriazole is supposed to cool the image considerably. I wouldn't know, i'm still waiting for my 100g bottle to arrive..

[Les McLean]

Definitely go for selenium toning.. Also benzotriazole is supposed to cool the image considerably. I wouldn't know, i'm still waiting for my 100g bottle to arrive..

Benzotriazole does cool the image and it does have another benefit, it will also increase the contrast of the image. I would gently gold tone an image to cool the colour.

[Adrian Twiss]

I favour Forte polygrade in Maxim Muirs Blue Black developer. See the chemistry recipe section of this forum for details.

[ooze]

Forte Polygrade is about the coldest paper I know of (without any toning etc). It's lovely stuff actually. Kodak Polymax is also quite cold, but availability in the UK is rather limited (I have only tried one box of 8x10). Oriental's graded paper is also quite cold. The Oriental VC is more neutral in my experience.

[Lee Shively]

How does Agfa Classic Multicontrast do with Kodak Rapid Selenium? I'd like to try this paper.