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# Thread: How long of an expiration date to expect?

1. ## How long of an expiration date to expect?

When buying new film, how long of an expiration date do you expect? I just received an order for a large quantity of film (500 sheets) and the expiration date is September of this year (just 4 months from now). This seems to be a little wonky to me as I have never received new film with an expiration date of less than a year.

2. I often see that as qualifying as "short-date specials."

When I buy new, I expect at least a couple of years. But I don't buy new that often, anyway.

allan

3. kaiyen is right... that shoul dhave been a short-date special and you should have received a good discount... did you?
if not I'd complain to the seller

4. There was no mention of it being a short-dated product so I will send an email to the store.

5. Sent an email to the seller and received a reply within 15 minutes that there must have been a mix-up by the person who grabbed it off the shelf and he offered me a 50% discount or fresh film + postage for the short-dated film. As I just cleared a bunch of space in the freezer and will soon be getting a deep freezer I took the discount (it's b&w film and should be okay for quite a while frozen)

6. Who was the seller? That seems like good customer service, and I am always looking for stores like that.

7. Sounds like a good deal as it should last for years in the freezer.

8. Some time ago.... quite some time ago. I did a *bunch* of calculations for a Reliablilty Lab using the -- Lord, Ive forgotten the name -- Arrhenius (??) equation, which is commonly used in conjunction with testing at elevated temperatures to determine approximate life expectancy. I do not remember exactly, but 72 hours of testing at, say 60 degrees Celsius, could be the equivalent of *years* of degradation at room temperature.

At the time, I calculated the increase in life expectancy of film: Reducing storage temperature to -18 C (0 degrees F) would extend the projected life to something over ~ 100 years.

I buy film, toss in in the freezer at -18C, and disregard all dating. As far as I'm concerned, it is no longer relevant.

Not long ago, I was approached by a girl who had spent a summer in New Mexico. She asked me if I had any idea why her film was so 'washed out' after it was processed upon her return. I asked her about the film storage in New Mexico: "Oh, I just kept it in the glove box in my car."
- In the glove box, no garage, all summer in New Mexico. I told her that I thought that she was fortunate to have any image at all on that film.

9. Originally Posted by L Gebhardt
Who was the seller? That seems like good customer service, and I am always looking for stores like that.
It was very good customer service and I am now a dedicated customer to J&C (an Apug sponser). John is going to send me the last 8 boxes of short dated film and fill the rest of the credit in with J&C100 in 120 (thought I would give this one a go).

10. Jeremy:

I would think that most "fresh" film would have an expiration date of at least two years. At least that's been my experience.

Pitchertaker

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