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    Quote Originally Posted by gnashings
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    Now, don't everyone jump on all at once for what I'm about to suggest, but as a newbie (just a year) at this LF photography, and as a person who loves to experiment, I have tried using divided D23 on Ilford paper and it seemed to work quite nicely, giving dark blacks and nice whites. The caveat was that the bath "B" needs to be fresh, but it's just Borax anyway, so...
    It didn't work anywhere near as nicely on AZO, leaving it very grainy. The advantage to the D23 is that the dry chemicals are available from JDFotochem in Montreal and it's easy to mix, AND it's what I use for my film also (most of the time anyway, except for the odd bit of Rodinal so that I don't get booted out of the congregation )

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    Freestyle sells several paper developers under their own brand name plus a number of others.
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    You can mix your own. I believe Dektol is D-72--

    http://www.jackspcs.com/pdd72.htm
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    D23D for paper? There's a new one!

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    Ilford Bromophen (ID-62) is a nice developer. You can purchase this or mix your own formulas a readily available on the web.

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    Ethol's LPD print developer works as a satisfactory substitute for Dektol at the 1:4 dilution (for me, anyway.) Comes both as a powder or as a liquid (I always used the liquid.) You can change the image tone by changing the dilution. A bit more expensive than Dektol, in my experience, but that's about the only difference I could detect. Photographer's Formulary also makes an "improved Dektol" which works just fine, as well.

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    I have used both Ilford bromophen, Ilford Multigrade, Agfa neutols, forte cold tone and tetenal eukobrom.

    All are excellent at their job. I have a batch of 25 roses images I did, some with bromophen and some Neutol. The huge amount of black in the print ate the developer at an astonshing rate (20x16 prints too). I ran out of bromophen after 15 prints or so. They are indistinguishable. I have found bromophen a touch less contrasty than the MG devs. I personally would not go to the trouble of making up my own with such superb liquid devs about....unless I too was feeling mean and then ansco 130 sounds good!

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    There are many excellent paper developer recipes posted in the APUG Chemical Recipes.

    If you are looking for a Dektol-Bromophen- Multigrade replacement, Ilford Universal Concentrated Liquid Developer will do very nicely indeed:

    http://www.apug.org/forums/article.php?a=36

    If you are looking for a Neutol WA replacement, then ID-78 Warm Tone paper developer is my choice:

    http://www.apug.org/forums/article.php?a=23

    Ansco 130 is a great and classic print developer, by adjusting dilutions and adding/subtracting potassium brominde and benzotriazole you can achieve a wide range of image color, etc. with Ansco 130 (the same thing is true of the two previously listed developers as well):

    http://www.apug.org/forums/article.php?a=63
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnashings
    I have always used Dektol for prints. Its excellent for my needs and I think all around its a wonderful, classic looking paper dev.

    But I will no longer buy anything in a yellow box (or bag). Screw them.

    So, the question is:

    What should I buy that will approximate the feel, ease of use, deep blacks and flexibility of Dektol? I would prefer Ilford products, on principle - but am totally unfamiliar with their paper developers.

    Thanks for any help in advance!

    Peter.
    [font=Times New Roman][size=3]Why not get a good scale and bulk chems and make D-72, a genuine Kodak formula that is for all purposes the same as Dektol. Then you could have the satisfaction of using a developer that behaves exactly like like dektol, from an official Kodak formula, without paying a penny to Kodak. [/size][/font]
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    The Ansco 125 formula which is floating around all over the place is essentially the same as Dektol. Ansco 130 is close, but uses glycin which Dektol doesn't. Very easy, and much cheaper to mix your own.

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