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    Is it this how they should be , i.e. first time using Lith

    I have decided to try some lith printing and after wasting some paper I have produced the prints in the links below. As a first timer I'm not really sure if they look correct, if that is how they should be, if I didn't snatch in time etc..... any feedback/input would be welcome.

    http://www.zenadsl6337.zen.co.uk/Temp/Lith0001_apug.jpg
    http://www.zenadsl6337.zen.co.uk/Temp/Lith0002_apug.jpg
    http://www.zenadsl6337.zen.co.uk/Temp/Lith0003_apug.jpg

    The paper is Forte Plygrade FB and the developer I used is the Moersch Easylith kit.
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    The question you should be ask is: am I happy with them?
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    Lith printing is a specialist branch of this pastime, and one with which I’ve had little experience, or, more accurately little experience of success. Having looked at your pictures I find them a little too contrasty for my taste, the shadows looking too blocked. Since I’ve forgotten more than I ever knew on this subject I can only refer you to Tim Rudman’s book for guidance on the subject contrast control. I do remember that the developer had to “mellow” and did not produce best results until several prints had been developed in it. I also found that a greater developer dilution than generally recommended slowed the rather soporific process further and allowed a longer window for the critical "snatch" time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Miller
    The question you should be ask is: am I happy with them?
    Thanks Dave, good question.
    it is not that i don't like them (maybe my wording wasn't great)....it is just my personal opinion, I find them quite interesting and different... and with a strange unusual look... but not sure if they are how they are supposed to be, e.g. darker, lighter, less contrasty.... etc.
    or maybe this is not important with lith? The main thing is that I'm happy with them? I have some normal prints that I like, but some people may find them too flat or too contrasty, not burned in enough etc.
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    It all depends on what kind of effect you are trying for. These look like my early attempts at lith - huge contrast and not much colour.

    You will probably need to try using a higher dilution of lith developer and over exposing more. The contrast is reduced and you start getting the colours appearing (depending on the paper used - I haven't used Forte Polygrade, I use Polywarmtone instead). All this results in dev times of 10+ minutes sometimes, so you have to be patient with lith.

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    For example - high exposure, long diluted development on polywarmtone...


    http://www.snapper.org.uk/images/travel/nz5.jpg

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    Regards Dave.

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    In my few attempts I have had both spectacular and abysmal results. I suggest you try longer exposure and shorter development, or more dilute developer, or older developer, or something else... That will give more colour to the (then softer) highlights before the snatch-point is reached. That is - if that's what you want.
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    I can't offer any advice due to a lack of experience in this area - so I hope you won't mind me chiming in. I felt compelled to do so because I was very taken with the examples of your work - I found them breath taking! However, I can see how the look you got may have a very limited useful range of application - it will definitely only work with a limited number of subjects and desired effects, but here it seems to really hit home. I would love to see further experiments!

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    Looks like good lith prints to me. I shoot 8x10 lith for abstract portraits. If I want high-contrast I use an A/B lith developer if I want more tonal range I use Dektol. Keep at it, Lith is fun.
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