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    Ilford says extended wash = "warmest image colour" -- why is this?

    Reading the insert for Ilford Mulitgrade Warmtone FB I noticed a strange notation in the section entitled "Optimum permanence - FB paper". They recommend the use of a washing aid then a 5 minute wash with the caveat "Extend to 30 minutes if the warmest image colour is needed."

    I'm familiar with warm/cold developers, but I didn't realize that super-washing could affect print color. Is this true and what is going on chemically here?

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    The brighteners on this paper will wash out, I think.

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    I've never read the insert (duh) but it explains why recently one of my prints on Ilford warm tone was considerably darker. Thanks, I'll follow the recommendations. I just didn't think 5 minutes would be enough rinse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred McCaffrey
    "Optimum permanence - FB paper".
    They recommend the use of a washing
    aid then a 5 minute wash ...
    How old is that paper? Ilford is no longer pushing their
    quick fix, 5, 10, 5, minute rinse-hca-rinse routine. They
    do encourage the use of a two bath fix.

    Personally I would not want to be one of the last few
    through a 40 8x10s per/liter working strength fix. Dan

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    How old is that paper---errr... one week. That explains why the price was better than B&H at my local photo shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancqu
    How old is that paper? Ilford is no longer pushing their
    quick fix, 5, 10, 5, minute rinse-hca-rinse routine. They
    do encourage the use of a two bath fix.
    Are you sure about this, Dan? Only this PDF on Ilford's website still gives those recommendations (see the last page) - http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/pdf/warm_tone.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankB
    Are you sure about this, Dan? Only this PDF on
    Ilford's website still gives those recommendations ...
    And that may be the only PDF that still does. At the
    Ilford site check out Ilford Rapid Fixer. I just reread the
    March 2002 PDF. I think you will agree that Ilford has
    dropped it's 5-10-5 Archival wash sequence. In fact
    that 5-10-5 minute sequence is not suggested
    for any purpose. Dan

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    Hi Dan,

    This is odd!

    I've been to the Ilford site and clicked the link for Rapid Fixer (http://www.ilford.com/html/us_englis...apid_fixer.pdf) and got a PDF dated Aug 2002 which still does recommend the 5-10-5 (page 2 near top right).

    Are we looking at the same site?!
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    I just read the pdf file on Ilford's site, rapid fixer and they still recommend the 5-10-5 and when you read the hypam pdf, it indicates the same.

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    I agree with the fact that Ilford still is promoting 5-10-5 in washing fiber base paper.

    Ann and FrankB are certainly correct in their statements. Page 2 right hand column third paragraph from the top.

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