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    Selenium Toning: am I stupid?

    I just tried to tone Ilford multi grade RC deluxe paper with Kodak Rapid Selenium toner. I used a 1-3 ratio for 6 minutes after washing and there was absolutely NO effect on the print. Am I missing something vital? PLEASE HELP!!!!

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    Worry thee not grasshopper: Ilford RC paper will not blink a wink in selenium. Even their FB paper reacts little. But forget about toning RC paper, it won't bring anything useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chloe1 View Post
    I just tried to tone Ilford multi grade RC deluxe paper with Kodak Rapid Selenium toner. I used a 1-3 ratio for 6 minutes after washing and there was absolutely NO effect on the print. Am I missing something vital? PLEASE HELP!!!!
    Rule 1: For color changes with KRST use the right paper. Rule 2: It's name is not Ilford RC. Rule 3: For more details first use the forum search, please.

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    Thanks Skahde, sorry for my ignorance. It says Ilford RC on the box...

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    Quote Originally Posted by skahde View Post
    Rule 1: For color changes with KRST use the right paper. Rule 2: It's name is not Ilford RC. Rule 3: For more details first use the forum search, please.

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    Gee, Stefan, the person's kind of new - cut them some slack! :o
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    Try Ilfords Warmtone paper, it tones well.


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    I use to selenium tone Ilford Gallerie (graded FB, glossy). There was a slight tone change and a slight bump in contrast as the blacks got just a touch blacker. But it was subtle and one needed to have two identical prints, one toned and one not toned, to be able to compare them.

    I toned Ilford Gallerie primarily for archival purposes, but did like the fact that the paper got just a touch cooler (to my eye the paper was slight warmer than neutral and the toning brought it back to neutral (I develop in Dektol).

    If you would like a color change on your Ilford RC paper, try sepia toning -- one can even follow that with selenium toner for additionl colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Brown View Post
    Gee, Stefan, the person's kind of new - cut them some slack! :o
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhv View Post
    Worry thee not grasshopper: Ilford RC paper will not blink a wink in selenium. Even their FB paper reacts little. But forget about toning RC paper, it won't bring anything useful.
    Funny, I've been selenium-toning Ilford RC for years because I like the colours. The WT reacts a lot more than plain MG IV, though, for obvious reasons. Admittedly I've only used Fotospeed, Paterson and Tetenal selenium, not Kodak.

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    Kodak presumably designed this brew to work with their paper; not Ilford's. As Roger said it Ilford RC does tone well, but as with all things photographic, you have to experiment to find the effect that suits you. Enjoy the experience.
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