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    Berger MCCB paper

    can anyone compare Berger MCCB paper with ilford (MGIV Fiber Base) or (Warm Tone Fiber Base). I am intersted particularly in how Berger performs for portraits.
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    I don't know about MCCB ( are you sure you have the right product name?), but I LOVE the VCCB paper. It is a beautiful warmtone paper for portrait work. It tones very well in a wide range of toners, and responds to different developers. For a warmtone finish, try the Ilford warmtone developer, or for something a little more neutral, go for Ansco 130. For a blue-black cold tone, try the Ilford Cooltone developer. To see some examples, check out the photo in my gallery here that is a ringaround test -

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    I don't know MCCB either, but I love the VCCB. It has a deep warm tone, but the base is white. Only paper I know like that, but I don't know many. When I tested VCCB against other papers years ago, I found it to have blacker blacks than others, too. It is outstanding paper.
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    Will it still be available with the Forte closure?

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    This is the critical question. I'm looking for alternatives while I can, just in case it goes away. I've heard good things about Kentmere Kentona, so I'm going to give it a try as well, but I'll keep on using the Bergger as long as it is available.

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    MCCB is the matt version, IIRC. It's great, just like the VCCB, and yes, it'd be lovely for portraits. I'd also suggest that VCCB doesn't have the sheen that other glossy papers have and I might give it a try even if you normally like matt papers. It's really good stuff.

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    Actually, the Matte version is VCCM. The VC stands for Variable Contrast. The second C is for Warmtone, N for Neutral, and B is Glossy, M is matte. It only comes in the following combinations:

    VCCB
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    Geee I do not know how it happened. The paper in question is VCCB.
    Thanks a lot guys for correcting and input, it is so helpfull to me.
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    As I know Berger is a company in Frence. Is it somehow connected with Forte?
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    Daniel,
    Very much, i believe Forte made all paper and film for Bergger. The VCCB is very close to the Forte Polywarmtone but i believe on a heavier base. Don't know about other Bergger papers, VCCB is the only one i have used and like very much.

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