Compare Oriental Warmtone VC FB to Bergger VC CB?

[Loose Gravel]

Has anyone tried the Oriental Warmtone VC FB? How does it compare to Bergger VC CB? I have used the VC CB and like very much the white base with the warm black tones. I'm hoping Oriental's paper does this, too.

Thanks --LG--

[SuzanneR]

The Oriental is very similar to Ilford's Warmtone. I've been using it and liking it, but if you want the more brown tones of the Bergger you may be disappointed.

[fotod69]

Has anyone tried the Oriental Warmtone VC FB? How does it compare to Bergger VC CB? I have used the VC CB and like very much the white base with the warm black tones. I'm hoping Oriental's paper does this, too.

Thanks --LG--

I have used both papers and love them both. The Bergger will produce warmer tones depending upon selenium times and the Oriental warm tone possesses a little more punch in the tones and I can get a greater contrast range from the Oriental paper. The Oriental has a subtle warmth when toned and oddly enough seems to split tone while wet but dries down without any hint of split. The Begger also has a slightly greater dry down. Both are beautiful papers that I select depending upon the subject.

[ChuckP]

Has Oriental recently changed their Warmtone paper or is it still only available in that not quite glossy surface?