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    APS Developing...??????

    Anyone developing their own APS film. Why do I ask?, because I'd like to be able to .. I've a Nikon Pronea 6i that just takes great photos, and I always keep it handy in my car when i don't want to take a lot of other gear with me....

    , and even neater is scanning the cartridges with the APS adapter for my coolscan 5000 film scanner.

    The resolution and options the scanner can use can really make for nice prints.

    I've recently acquired a Jobo ATL 1000 and if I could just find a reel that would hold the APS film size, it would be easy to do... I also have the little machines I found on Ebay to detach/attach the film roll to the cartridges. The film has to be re-attached correctly in the cartridge after development for the nikon aps adapter to work properly.

    I'm really just curious if anyone else is doing this-- I'm thinking about trying to modifiy one of my reels to fit the aps film. My local walmart offers me very resonable develop only prices, but I'd like to have the ability to shoot and flexibility to push/pull with the Jobo, etc. I guess i just like challenges!

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    Take off that flange of the reel which is glued/welded to the spindle, shorten the spindle, glue on the flange again yielding the desired spacing.

    By this you should be able to adapt the reel to any film width. With real small film, 9mm, one could additionally mill down the spirals a bit.

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    I've got a tank that's (almost) ideal for developing odd sizes of film. It's a Russian tank, but not the design that's more commonly seen on eBay. It's easier seen than described, so here are four photos of it, in various states of disassembly:

    http://www.rodsbooks.com/tank-1.jpg
    http://www.rodsbooks.com/tank-2.jpg
    http://www.rodsbooks.com/tank-3.jpg
    http://www.rodsbooks.com/tank-4.jpg

    Small spacers (white cylinders in the photos) control the distance between the spiral disks, and hence the width of the film that the reels support. The tank comes with three spacers; you use none to develop 16mm film, the smaller ones to develop 35mm film, or the bigger one to develop MF film. All you'd need to develop APS would be a custom-cut spacer, which you ought to be able to get made at a hardware store from plumbing supplies or something. (You might need a second custom spacer so that the black tightening nut would have something to press down on, too.)

    FWIW, this tank actually works fairly well. I find it's actually easier to load than my AP and Paterson reels, although not by much. (I prefer my Hewes stainless steel reels.) Pour and drain times are a bit long, though -- on the order of 15-30 seconds. The tank leaks more than my stainless steel tanks, but not much more than my AP plastic tank. The spiral disks are also a bit fragile. It requires less solution volume to cover a single 35mm reel than does my AP plastic tank; I use 250ml (the same as I use for my stainless tanks, although that leaves less margin for error with the Russian tank).

    Unfortunately, if you search for "(Russian,Soviet) tank" on eBay, you'll get hits for a completely different design, which doesn't look like it would be very useful for handling APS film. I don't see any of my tank's design on eBay at the moment. Maybe one of the bigger Russian/FSU camera sellers would be willing to acquire one for you if you asked, though.

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    You can also use a film apron and tank. All APS film is C 41 so you need color chemistry. I would have the film developed at a mimi lab then you can print.

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    Great advice, and thanks to each of you... I am certainly going to give this a shot... I want to be able to develop when and how I need to when experimenting with my APS Pronea and various lenses from my other cameras, etc. Push come to shove, yes I can take and get processing only done... but I like the ideal of being able to control it all myself! I'll be scouting Ebay for those reels, and trying to modify some as ya'll have mentioned MANY THANKS

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    Freestyle used to sell those tanks with film aprons. You might see if they still have them. I think they were made in Spain.
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    Great pics! thanks for sharing this info

    appreciate the visuals!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by srs5694 View Post
    I've got a tank that's (almost) ideal for developing odd sizes of film. It's a Russian tank, but not the design that's more commonly seen on eBay. It's easier seen than described, so here are four photos of it, in various states of disassembly:

    http://www.rodsbooks.com/tank-1.jpg
    http://www.rodsbooks.com/tank-2.jpg
    http://www.rodsbooks.com/tank-3.jpg
    http://www.rodsbooks.com/tank-4.jpg

    Small spacers (white cylinders in the photos) control the distance between the spiral disks, and hence the width of the film that the reels support. The tank comes with three spacers; you use none to develop 16mm film, the smaller ones to develop 35mm film, or the bigger one to develop MF film. All you'd need to develop APS would be a custom-cut spacer, which you ought to be able to get made at a hardware store from plumbing supplies or something. (You might need a second custom spacer so that the black tightening nut would have something to press down on, too.)

    FWIW, this tank actually works fairly well. I find it's actually easier to load than my AP and Paterson reels, although not by much. (I prefer my Hewes stainless steel reels.) Pour and drain times are a bit long, though -- on the order of 15-30 seconds. The tank leaks more than my stainless steel tanks, but not much more than my AP plastic tank. The spiral disks are also a bit fragile. It requires less solution volume to cover a single 35mm reel than does my AP plastic tank; I use 250ml (the same as I use for my stainless tanks, although that leaves less margin for error with the Russian tank).

    Unfortunately, if you search for "(Russian,Soviet) tank" on eBay, you'll get hits for a completely different design, which doesn't look like it would be very useful for handling APS film. I don't see any of my tank's design on eBay at the moment. Maybe one of the bigger Russian/FSU camera sellers would be willing to acquire one for you if you asked, though.

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    Jobo 2519. Could luck finding one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Goldfarb View Post
    Freestyle used to sell those tanks with film aprons. You might see if they still have them. I think they were made in Spain.
    I believe you're referring to this product (or this variant if you need a tank to go with it). I've never used them before. Would they hold APS film securely enough? If so, it might be a good option, and at just $0.99 (if you've already got a tank), it's cheap enough to buy one just to try it. A single roll of film and chemistry to process it would probably cost more!

    Quote Originally Posted by jeriann3
    appreciate the visuals!!!
    No problem. Feel free to pass the URLs around if you e-mail some eBay sellers looking for this model. I'll leave the JPEGs up for at least a couple of weeks.

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    Oh, and FWIW, I'm pretty sure that I bought my Russian tank from the eBay seller alex-photo, who's one of the bigger eBay seller of Russian/FSU photographic equipment. He might be able to locate another one if you ask. Shipping would probably be prohibitive, though (I added my tank to an order of other items, mostly out of curiosity about it), so trying the apron tape first might be best.

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