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    Quote Originally Posted by kraker View Post
    But as TheFlyingCamera already noted: the soulless myth, that's one I've never hear before... I guess, dslater, that's an episode of South Park I've missed.

    Yes - in fact I think the South Park episode was written to spoof the ginger web site referenced above.

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    Redhead here, too, though my hair is a very deep auburn rather than the lighter orangey reds (which my sister is.) I do have extremely pale skin, though, and the one time I tried making a self-portrait with IR, it was not a flattering look.

    Part of the reason it was unflattering, though, is because my eyes are extremely dark brown, and the weird marbled white skin made me look dead. Yick.

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    I found the possible origins of the soulless thing- although they explicitly make the connection in a South Park episode, there is historical precedent - red hair was often seen as a sign of posession by the devil or other association with witchcraft. Thus the "no soul" bit.

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    Here are some examples...

    My fair skinned boy...

    http://www.roberthall.com/austin13a.jpg

    My model friend with ortho...

    http://www.roberthall.com/KyleeBlue.jpg

    My model friend with IR...

    http://www.roberthall.com/KyleeIR.jpg


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    One interesting effect of deeper IR is on dyed hair. The color mostly goes away. So a blonde or white haired person with hair dye seems to return to thier former glory in IR.
    Gary Beasley

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    Could be the dyes reflect IR... or not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Hall View Post
    Here are some examples...

    My fair skinned boy...
    http://www.roberthall.com/austin13a.jpg

    My model friend with ortho...
    http://www.roberthall.com/KyleeBlue.jpg

    My model friend with IR...
    http://www.roberthall.com/KyleeIR.jpg

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    Wow, a picture says more than a thousand words? You've just saved us about 3000 words! Just to be complete, the first one is with panchromatic film, or...?

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    #1 is HIE (IR 35mm)

    #2 is ortho film, no filter in shadow (blue light, but fairly full spectrum)

    #3 Then back to IR HIE 120 size, full spectrum light
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Hall View Post
    #1 is HIE (IR 35mm)

    #2 is ortho film, no filter in shadow (blue light, but fairly full spectrum)

    #3 Then back to IR HIE 120 size, full spectrum light
    Great examples Robert. As a reference do you hae your model friend shot with standard pan and no filtration?

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    no filtration, but it was a shadow which has a large blue light component to the available light.

    What color were your filters? (the 80's) are they a warming filter or blue?
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