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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kasaian View Post
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    Hallo John,

    - Tura is gone. Some Tura employees have founded a new company called "Photostar". They have specialised in film confectioning and are working for Maco/Rollei for example. No own film production.
    But they own the Tura brand name and sell different products (color-films, batteries, Inkjet-papers, single use cameras etc.) under the Tura name.
    Look at: http://www.photostar-germany.de/index.php
    The old Tura company sold Agfa Films under the Tura Label.

    - Orwo: That is now Filmotec: www.filmotec.de

    Best regards,
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    Thats quite interesting Jana, CPAC in the US (Leicester, NY) bought into Tura around 2002, by 2004 they held 40% of the shares. I had dealings with CPAC around that time and remember I was very surprised at their investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanaM View Post
    - Tura is gone. Some Tura employees have founded a new company called "Photostar". They have specialised in film confectioning and are working for Maco/Rollei for example. No own film production.
    But they own the Tura brand name and sell different products (color-films, batteries, Inkjet-papers, single use cameras etc.) under the Tura name.
    Look at: http://www.photostar-germany.de/index.php
    The old Tura company sold Agfa Films under the Tura Label.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    Thats quite interesting Jana, CPAC in the US (Leicester, NY) bought into Tura around 2002, by 2004 they held 40% of the shares. I had dealings with CPAC around that time and remember I was very surprised at their investment.

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    Ian;

    CPAC was founded by a former EK employee who quit in the mid 70s IIRC and founded the company to sell and service silver recovery and chemical handling for photofinishers.

    They ran into quite a bit of financial problems as photofinishing began its decline and branched out into a number of other areas.

    AFAIK, they are still going. I used to get their periodic newsletters, as I somehow got onto their distribution list. I have heard nothing from them lately.

    They are not far from Rochester.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    They are not far from Rochester.
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    I know I've been there,

    They obviously completely pulled out of Tura, like you I haven't kept up to date with their newsletters, but I do remember the CEO stating that Tura were under performing in their financial reports 3 years ago, which they post online.

    The intention had been to sell Tura colour paper alongside their CPAC colour chemistry in Europe, to new and existing customers, complementing their silver recovery equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    I know I've been there,

    They obviously completely pulled out of Tura, like you I haven't kept up to date with their newsletters, but I do remember the CEO stating that Tura were under performing in their financial reports 3 years ago, which they post online.

    The intention had been to sell Tura colour paper alongside their CPAC colour chemistry in Europe, to new and existing customers, complementing their silver recovery equipment.

    Ian

    I believe Tura ceased operation sometime in 2005. Tura did have a tie-in with Agfa whereby they were allowed to produce some of their microfilm products (e.g. Agfa Copex Rapid). And possibly others. I think the agreement was somewhat similar to what is widely believed to exist between Foma and Agfa.

    A lingering example of that relationship is Bluefire Police Film, which is actually the last bit of Tura-produced Copex Rapid that is being cut up in Canada.
    Digital Photography is just "why-tech" not "high tech"..

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    We must not lose sight of the fact that as these companies go under, there are rolls and rolls of their last production runs (master rolls) that were never finished or sold. As time goes on, the rolls that are usable are being sold under different labels in 35mm and other sizes.

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    Following from Ron's comments, as companies go under their technology isn't necessarily lost.

    Chemists & technicians are quite capable of taking their know how elsewhere. Companies even before the current downturn benefited from cross-fertilisation.

    Kentmere made remarkable strides forward about 15 years ago after they employed a new photo-chemist who had obviously previously worked for a far larger company, rapidly variable contrast paper was introduced, and quality increased significantly.

    Tura went when Agfa collapsed because they were totally dependent on Agfa.

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    OTOH, high speed curtain coating and color technology are being lost. Kodak and Agfa engineers, to name a few, hardly find easy jobs doing this type of work. Most of the work calls for B&W, slower speed coatings.

    Many are going into color digital.

    So, there is quite a bit of technology that is simply vanishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHOTOTONE View Post
    Kodak.....Kodak films
    Ilford....Ilford films only..in the past some private labeling, but not now
    Bergger..mostly Forte, but now Ilford will be coating Bergger films (Not relabeled Ilford films)
    Forte...Forte and Arista.edu (Made in Hungary)
    Foma...Foma and Arista.edu.ultra
    Agfa Leverkusen...(now defunct) but Agfa and Arista II
    Ferrania Only C-41 35mm color films mostly private label zillions of brands
    Fuji Fuji films and possibly Voigtlander 35mm slide film (private label)
    Efke....Efke films and some films for Freestyle Photo, and some Adox films

    Not comprehensive, and very USA-centric, but a start. Most film manufacturers have at one time made private label product for third parties, with the exception of Eastman Kodak, and now Ilford. The product Ilford will coat for Bergger will be to Bergger formulas, and won't be Ilford films.
    Fuji also supplies film for the ritz camera, walgreens, cvs and Rite Aid brand film.

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    Ferrania (mentioned above) is in sort of a strange situation. They stopped making 126 early this year and they've been in and out of bankruptcy at least once since they were sold by 3M around 1999 or 2000.

    Ferrania has a BIG contract to supply most of the photo film sold at NATO facilities that's scheduled to run out in a couple of years. They are also a very large producer of X-ray film and inkjet cartridges (including the specialized ones used in high-speed plotters). I think they recently started marketing somebody else's digital cameras under the "Solaris" label, too.

    At one time they were finishing and packaging film in Oklahoma, but I think this facility is now closed.
    Digital Photography is just "why-tech" not "high tech"..

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