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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Howell View Post
    DK 50
    Kodak Developer DK-50 - - Produces fine grain and a high degree of sharpness; maximum enlargement with TRI-X 400 / 400TX and TRI-X 320 / 320TXP.

    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/profe....14.7.26&lc=en
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    It might appear to be contrary to logic, but Microdol-X can make for a very good developer without delivering very fine grain. The trick is to use it diluted 1+3. The same can be said for D-76, though it can be difficult to find data for many films with this dilution.

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    I make tests with Neopan SS film is treated in: Ilford ID-11, Kodak D 23 (fine grain developers) and Ansco 90 (universal developer).
    You can see comparative pictures.
    After the tests, my opinion is: the grain film contribution is much more that the developer.
    You can see more comparative pictures here: http://membres.lycos.fr/georgegrosu/4%20revelatori.htm .
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    You can also shoot another film than Tri-X if you want. Ilford's Delta 3200 and Kodak's T-3200 can be shot at an EI of 800 (only 1 stop faster than Tri-X) and souped in all the devs mentioned above. I believe you'll be in grain heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgegrosu View Post
    I make tests with Neopan SS film is treated in: Ilford ID-11, Kodak D 23 (fine grain developers) and Ansco 90 (universal developer).
    You can see comparative pictures.
    After the tests, my opinion is: the grain film contribution is much more that the developer.
    You can see more comparative pictures here: http://membres.lycos.fr/georgegrosu/4%20revelatori.htm .
    George

    Thanks for this. Nothing to do with grain but I thought that the scans improved in look as you moved from Kodak to Ilford to Ansco. The Ansco seemed to produce the punchier and more natural look in the dog's fur.

    If all other things are equal and if every neg showed the same look then I would use Ansco on "looks" grounds alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David H. Bebbington View Post
    Easiest solution is print developer, ... David
    Print developer = carbonated developer. With very few exceptions.
    Any low sulfite carbonated print developer will do. What the OP is
    after is an high ph Rodinal - Beutler - FX-1 type. Ansco 120 print
    developer is very low sulfite and worth a try. A very simple Home
    Brew. The higher the ph the greater the grain. Dan

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    I pushed Presto to 800 the other day but didn't see any difference

    I've got some Neopan SS I'm going to push to 200 in D-76 once I'm finished. I guess it can be pushed to 400? Anyone?

    I'll try pushing Tri-X to 800 and pulling TMAX 3200 to 1000. (I've heard it's rated that anyway.) I shot TMAX 3200 once before on a rainy night and it was grain heaven
    Those who know, shoot film

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Hoskinson View Post
    Kodak Developer DK-50 - - Produces fine grain and a high degree of sharpness; maximum enlargement with TRI-X 400 / 400TX and TRI-X 320 / 320TXP.

    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/profe....14.7.26&lc=en
    I just read the current web site, but in all of my older data guides Kodak listed DK 50 as moderate grain. Perhaps with the newer emlusions moderate is now fine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Howell View Post
    I just read the current web site, but in all of my older data guides Kodak listed DK 50 as moderate grain. Perhaps with the newer emlusions moderate is now fine?
    Paul, DK-50 is a Metol - Hydroquinone, Kodalk, Sodium Sulfite developer.

    Maybe the current Kodak DK-50 Recipe contains a different amount of Sodium Sufite than the original version of DK-50?
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