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    3200 film and Rodinal

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    I want grainy prints and finished roll of 35mm Delta 3200 (metered as 1600). I thought to develop it in Rodinal to increase grain and (as possibile) keep shapnes. So, Delta 3200 in Rodinal, yes or no? If yes, suggested times/dilution, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haris View Post
    suggested times/dilution, please.

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    http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.html - they have your exact film/ei/developer info there

    and even ilford give the information on their development chart - http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/2006216122447.pdf

    it only took me 2 minutes to find this information

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    Quote Originally Posted by haris View Post
    Hi,

    I want grainy prints and finished roll of 35mm Delta 3200 (metered as 1600). I thought to develop it in Rodinal to increase grain and (as possibile) keep shapnes. So, Delta 3200 in Rodinal, yes or no? If yes, suggested times/dilution, please.

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    Delta 3200 tends to be quite low contrast when developed at the Ilford recommended times so (unless the scene was very high contrast) a lot of users will extend the developing time.
    Rodinal will certainly tend to emphasise the grain and be sharp but you will lose effective speed.
    So you will probably get something close to what you want with an EI of 1600 in Rodinal.
    I had to shoot a few rolls and experiment to find exactly what I wanted, the recipe includes an EI of ~1000, Rodinal at 1:10, extended dev time and printing on a harder grade.
    I'd suggest using the time for EI800 or EI 400 and at 1:25 dilution or stronger, here is an example (scanned full frame print):

    http://www.pbase.com/mononation/image/65663434

    The same approach works well in MF too with finer but still obvious grain.

    PS I used to use Kodak Recording film for grain effects and was looking for a replacement, think I first was made aware of this Delta/Rodinal approach to getting super grain by an article by Les Maclean so TY to him.
    Last edited by DaveOttawa; 11-07-2007 at 08:30 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon View Post
    http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.html - they have your exact film/ei/developer info there

    and even ilford give the information on their development chart - http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/2006216122447.pdf

    it only took me 2 minutes to find this information
    I started with the Ilford dev times and they did not give the effect I wanted which was a strong distinct grain effect. I think the OP should plan on a roll or two to zero in on the degree of grain and contrast they want and I would be surprised if the Ilford times do it for them (because film manufacturers tend not to recommend starting point EI's and times that maximise grain for their products).

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    I've done delta 3200 (at EI3200) 35mm in Rodinal before. It somewhat depends on the situation as to how much grain shows up, in my experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon View Post
    http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.html - they have your exact film/ei/developer info there

    and even ilford give the information on their development chart - http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/2006216122447.pdf

    it only took me 2 minutes to find this information
    Thank you all.

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    Oh yeah, you'll get grain with 3200 in Rodinal!

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    All the shots in this gallery of mine are shot on Ilford Delta 3200 developed in R09 Rodinal equivalent. Albeit it's from 6x7cm negative, you can get the idea. I don't have the notes at hand so can not post the exact times, but I think it was R09 1+40 dillution (that would mean 1+50 for Rodinal)...
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    Thanks, Jiri.
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    I've got this in the gallery: http://www.apug.org/gallery/showphot...15&ppuser=3559

    I think 1+25 normal agitation ISO 1600. It has a lot of grain.

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