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    I think aquarium filtration technology might be a pretty intersesting thing to look into as far as minimal water use and clean prints go...! Anybody ever explored this avenue? (now completely off the topic of using alkaline water to wash prints)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    I think aquarium filtration technology might be a pretty
    intersesting thing to look into as far as minimal water use
    and clean prints go...! Anybody ever explored this avenue?
    (now completely off the topic of using alkaline water
    to wash prints)
    The use of an aquarium is a low cost way to a vertical
    slot washer. A kit is sold which includes the separators.
    No constant running water is used. Some other may
    have a link to the site. My method uses horizontal
    separators and two trays.

    But not off the topic. That is one advantage of the
    still water diffusion method; the little water used may
    be 'doctored' to any ph desired. Room temperature
    washes are no problem. Dan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    I think aquarium filtration technology might be a pretty intersesting thing to look into as far as minimal water use and clean prints go...! Anybody ever explored this avenue? (now completely off the topic of using alkaline water to wash prints)
    Unless you're looking at an RO system, I don't think aquarium filtration is what you really want for this purpose unless activated charcoal/carbon filtration would help with the fix... but even in aquarium systems it's not very effective ,though is usually use to get rid of chemicals (old medication) from the water.
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    hi jonathon

    why don't you take a bit of water to your
    local enviromental lab to get a read-out of
    what is actually in your tap water?

    the guy who sold his photo-business to the photographer's formulary
    used to sell a "kit" to convert a fish tank to a print washer.
    it was ezy--- just a few pvc tubes with slots cut in them
    and plexi to fit in the slots. water was filled into the tank
    and you soaked then syphon'd the water out and did this a few times.

    if you are really worried about your water supply, get camping filter
    and filter your water. some ( i keep thinking dicretaceous earth filters but
    i think i have the name wrong ) are crushed stone
    and will filter pretty much EVERYTHING out of your water.

    if you are worried about your water's ph, a trick people with fish tanks know
    is just let your water sit in a plastic jug over night, and it will neutral-ph itself ...

    good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Miller View Post
    I use an alkaline fix, and follow the manufacturers recommendation regarding the washing time for fibre prints of 20 minutes.

    What benefit do you think I can expect to get by extending this time?

    ref: http://www.monochromephotography.com/fixer.htm
    There has been no discussion regarding water temperature. Extending the washing time when lower temperatures exist should be a benefit, to be safe, assuming manufacturing recommendations are for ambient temperature (68F/20C).
    "Pictures are not incidental frills to a text; they are essences of our distinctive way of knowing." Stephen J. Gould

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post

    if you are worried about your water's ph, a trick people with fish tanks know
    is just let your water sit in a plastic jug over night, and it will neutral-ph itself ...
    Actually, all that does is let the chlorine gas out of the water and doesn't really work if your local water system is using chloromine(?) instead of chlorine... it means better drinking water for animals/humans, but worse for aquatic creatures hence you really do need water treatment liquids/chemicals/drops for fish tanks in that situtation.

    My ultra hard, high pH city tap water will still be hard as nails and high pH if I leave it out overnight...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akki14 View Post
    Actually, all that does is let the chlorine gas out of the water and doesn't really work if your local water system is using chloromine(?) instead of chlorine... it means better drinking water for animals/humans, but worse for aquatic creatures hence you really do need water treatment liquids/chemicals/drops for fish tanks in that situtation.

    My ultra hard, high pH city tap water will still be hard as nails and high pH if I leave it out overnight...
    bummer ...

    luckily we have the "sparkling clean water of the scituate reservoir" in
    these parts ... not too hard, not too soft as goldielocks would say " just right " ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    ...a "kit" to convert a fish tank to a print washer.

    ...let your water sit in a plastic jug ...john
    Enter at Google, print washer kits fred . That's the
    site. Fred says, "No running water - No agitation"
    "Time, Clean Water, and Print Separation"

    I term it the Still Water Diffusion method. Besides all
    the advantages I've already mentioned but specifically
    applicable to my employment of the method is a cost of
    less than $5.00 to implement. Two trays are assumed
    to be on hand. Dan

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