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    HP5 and x-rays

    The stupid security woman at dublin airport insisted on scanning 5 unexposed rolls of 120 HP5 yesderday, despite my protests.

    Should I bin them, or will they probably be ok?

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    One should distinguish between scanners for carry-on luggage and checked-in luggage.

    See also: http://www.kodak.com/global/en/servi...201.jhtml#SEC1

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    If it was a carry-on luggage scanner, it should be just fine. I've had Tri-X and various 400-speed color films go through scanners multiple times with no issue.

    The checked-luggage scanner is a different story, however ...

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    One might also want to educate themselves before declaring another as "stupid" - that really is rather rude.

    If your film was scanned by a "carry-on xray scanning machine" you'll be fine... fret not.

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    Geoff, I'm off travelling next week my Tmax400 will pass through at least 3 airport scans possibly 4 before I get to Chile, and I'm not the slightest bit worried. It'll go through more in Peru & Bolivia and then another 3 or 4 on my return, it will be in my hand luggage and I'm certain its safe.

    Most airports will no longer hand-check films because they know their equipment is totally safe for scanning films.

    Ian

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    In the US, most airports I've been through will hand-check if you ask them to, but they're none too happy about it.

    I'm going to agree that their scanners are mostly safe for film.

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    Well, there are different airport scanners operating at different power at different times for different bags, which are scanned at different rates. You can't really apply other people's experiences to your own situation with a high degree of confidence. If you must carry film on rather than have it shipped to the location, then the safest thing is to have your film hand checked. Period.

    Having said that... what happened happened, and you are probably totally fine for a few scans on 400 speed film unless it goes into checked luggage. I probably would have relented for 400 film too if the operator was uncooperative, no worries. But note that if the film goes into checked luggage then all bets are off.

    So I certainly wouldn't chuck the film out. But I also wouldn't rely on it for a money shot until testing it. I have a pile of these "suspect" films that I use for not-so-important things like duping or whatever, and so far haven't seen any fogging that could definitely be attributed to carry-on scanners.

    Next time, if it makes you feel better, tell the operator that the film is to be push processed at 1600 and they probably won't scan it (at least that's true for TSA in the States). And actually, Ian, last time through National in DC, I was told that 400 speed film was on the boundary of what should be hand checked. They were not insistent either way (and never have been, in my experience), and I had presorted my film into clear bags of <400 and >=400, with all rolls removed from boxes, and it was smooth and quick. I offered to unpack the sheet film but they didn't bother. They sniff-checked the >=400 and I let the <400 go through the scanner.
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    Keith, I had a long discussion with a senior security operative at London, Gatwick last year. He sits on a committee with Ilford, Kodak & Fuji specialist about film safety & airport scanners. Modern hand baggage scanners are totally safe for multiple passes for virtually all films.

    The only airports I've been through with old style equipment have been in the US, Philadelphia was the oldest but to be fair the airport was undergoing major modernisation at the time. I can only speak from the experience of the airports I've used and most in Europe and here in Turkey won't hand check films and insist all films are scanned but then they do have very up to date safe equipment.

    There may be more tolerance for hand checks in the US, but there isn't in most other countries. If the airport equipment is old then of course I'll try asking for my films to be hand-checked.

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    Thanks for your replies. I'm hopeing to use a couple of the rolls this weekend, and don't have any more in the fridge, so these are the only rolls I have available to use. I guess I'll just cross my fingers

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    I always request a hand check of film [I am talking about in the US only], if they ask if the film is 400 ASA or less, I answer that it is 400 ASA but it will be pushed to 1600 or 3200. Only once have I had to call for the supervisor.

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