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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    What's Kodak and Fuji have to do with anything?
    Beats me. I didn't bring it up.

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    Just keep the warmtone going Simon..hopefully sales are good there...if it ever falls short, warn us first!
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    I'm off to town today to pick up Paper and Developer for my new, mostly completed, darkroom. If they have a bottle of cooltone I'll give it a whirl, but what I've seen of warmtone appeals to me more, and I suppose it's the same to others also. Thank you for considering the public domain though, it seems like a logical way of going about product discontinuance.
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    Thanks for the explanation, Simon. It is much appreciated.

    It's quite simple, really: if the product didn't sell well enough to make any profits, it is because we didn't buy enough of it to make it viable for Harman/Ilford to continue making it. Now if we continue buying and using the other products that they still have, it would be one way to ensure they will still be produced.


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    Hello Simon,

    could you inform us on the longelivety of the developer in frozen condition? I am very fond of the developer (for specific use) and plan to stock a few bottles for future use.

    @Sanjay Sen
    In the short lifespan of the cooltone developer, I doubt that some of us have bought and used more than 5 bottles. My usecount got up to 4.
    It's not because there's a new product on the market that everyone has to switch use it! But that's a discussion that has not to be made in this thread, IMHO.

    Thanks in advance,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Tapscott. View Post
    Clayton Ultra Coldtone Print Developer should make an ideal substitute for the Ilford Cooltone product. It is a pity that this developer is not available in the UK.
    I am hoping that Silverprint and/or Retrophotographic would consider stocking the Clayton products.
    We're (Silverprint) having a look at Clayton, but Los Angeles is a long way from the UK for chemical products - keep you posted.

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    Simon, thankyou for being upfront and open.

    Martin, thankyou for your comment too.


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    Dear Geert,

    Our tech service recommend NOT to freeze the product at all:

    Keep in a cool place, with the least variation in temperature away from direct sunlight. Do not open until needed, keep the seal in place.

    Tech service say it should be OK for 18 th 24 months although the activity of the product will reduce in that period.

    Kind Regards

    Simon. ILFORD photo / Harman technology Limited ;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Tapscott. View Post
    Clayton Ultra Coldtone Print Developer should make an ideal substitute for the Ilford Cooltone product. It is a pity that this developer is not available in the UK.
    I am hoping that Silverprint and/or Retrophotographic would consider stocking the Clayton products.
    Clayton Ultra Cold Tone developer is my experience does not produce the same blue blacks on Ilford's Warmtone Paper....nothing I have tested does...including mixing my own. This developer seems to give the same tones as Dektol. It is a great developer...just don't expect ultra cold tones. You will get colder tones by using lpd 1:1 or edwal ultra black...in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon R Galley View Post
    Dear Geert,

    Our tech service recommend NOT to freeze the product at all:

    Keep in a cool place, with the least variation in temperature away from direct sunlight. Do not open until needed, keep the seal in place.

    Tech service say it should be OK for 18 th 24 months although the activity of the product will reduce in that period.

    Kind Regards

    Simon. ILFORD photo / Harman technology Limited ;
    Thanks a lot for inquiring, Simon.

    Greetings,
    G

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