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    ..all the ADOX branded films can be reversed processed except the CMS20, with much better results than the negative counterpart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADOX Fotoimpex View Post
    ADOX is currently selling five different kinds of slow speed 35mm films.

    CHS 25 which is the true ADOX (KB 14) emulsion from the 1950ies.
    This film is coated on a triacetate base and shows the unique charakteristics of a 1950ies film.
    If you are in doubt about this, Jerevan, try a roll and you will see that the greyscales and spectral response are completely different from a modern film.
    The film is neither cheap nor easy to handle yet very succesfull on the market due to its unique look.
    There is no special developer necesary for this product.

    CHS 50. Another true ADOX formulation (ADOX KB 17) from the 50ies.
    Very much like CHS 25 in spectral response yet much easier to handle because it has a wider latitude.

    CMS 20. Our highest resolution product. This film resolves up to 800 l/mm and makes grain free enlargements from a 35mm negative up to 1 Meter x 1,5 Meters possible. It needs to be developed in a special developer (ADOTECH).

    ORT 25. A very new film emulsion developed in 2003. Better mechanical properties (surface hardening) than the historic CHS series and coated onto a clear PET base for reversal processing. Very high resolution of up to 300 l / mm and a very modern anti-halation layer between the emulsion and the base.
    This film can be reversal processed. For regular development (negative) it needs a soft working developer or at least a developer with good equalizing capacity.
    This film´s individual components are produced in three different factories to make this possible. It was quite a logistical challenge to bring it to the market.

    NEW PAN 25. Very much like ORT 25 but with a panchromatic emulsion. It has the same clear base and AHU (antihalo under the emulsion) and also needs to be made step by step in three different locations until we can sell it.
    This film can be reversal processed (unlike the clasic CHS series).
    For regular development (negative) it does not need a special developer.

    None of these currently offered films is based on APX technology.

    I hope this answers all questions regarding the properties of our slow speed films and explains why we have so many different ones.

    Best regards,

    Mirko

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    Quote Originally Posted by braxus View Post
    .... I also believe Adox Ortho is also Rollei Ortho.
    That's right. Same film, other label.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADOX Fotoimpex View Post
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    ORT 25. A very new film emulsion developed in 2003. Better mechanical properties (surface hardening) than the historic CHS series and coated onto a clear PET base for reversal processing. Very high resolution of up to 300 l / mm and a very modern anti-halation layer between the emulsion and the base.
    This film can be reversal processed. For regular development (negative) it needs a soft working developer or at least a developer with good equalizing capacity.
    This film´s individual components are produced in three different factories to make this possible. It was quite a logistical challenge to bring it to the market.
    Yes Mirko, but please be honest. This was a challenge for Maco to bring it to the market, not for Adox. Maco introduced this film (Rollei Ortho 25) long before.
    You joined in later.
    "Man sollte sich nicht mit fremden Federn schmücken".

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    Bonjour Aurelien,

    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelien View Post
    But there is a very big problem: your products are not very well distributed for example here in France...
    [Par courtoisie envers nos amis d'APUG, je vais continuer ma réponse en Anglais (ou approchant) ]

    As stated above, you can safely pass an order at Fotoimpex (I did it several times), shipping costs asked for France, by the current European standards, are cheap, and btw, they are kind people. If by chance, you'll get in touch with Amelie (Losier), you will even communicate in French !

    If you prefer "hard" shops to mail-order shopping, if you pass by Paris, I advise you a stop at "Photo-Stock", in 19th, near Porte de Pantin, you will find the whole Rollei film range, Rollei Pan 25 included...

    And the guy have plenty of things (paper, film, darkroom accessories), on his shelfs, a rather refreshing view on these gloomy digital days...

    Best regards, à bientot,

    Raphael

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    It doesn't surprise me this thread didn't get a reply from Mirko/ Robert Vonk on this one. I"ll try the Adox Pan 25 when it comes available at Freestyle. I already have a roll of the Rollei Pan 25.

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    Anyone try the Adox labelled version of the Pan 25 yet? Be interesting to see results. Also does this film need to be presoaked/ prewashed like Efke before development? I have read a 30 second presoak is recommended, but do people do it? The soak seems to get rid of the dye layer in the film from what I gather.
    Last edited by braxus; 12-29-2007 at 01:29 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by braxus View Post
    Anyone try the Adox labelled version of the Pan 25 yet? Be interesting to see results.
    I shot a roll of Adox CHS 25 in MF recently. I don't have any scans to post, though, and in the past I've shot Efke KB25 in 35mm, but not in MF, so comparisons by me would be fairly meaningless. (I bought a few rolls of the Adox mainly to get the plastic canisters in which they come.)

    Also does this film need to be presoaked/ prewashed like Efke before development? I have read a 30 second presoak is recommended, but do people do it? The soak seems to get rid of the dye layer in the film from what I gather.
    I've never presoaked Efke films. Different manufacturers recommend different things with respect to presoaking, but my impression from reading peoples' posts is that most people ignore the recommendations and just do whatever they want to do with respect to presoaking. I did notice that the developer came out of the tank a rather bright magenta color when I did my roll of Adox CHS 25.

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    The Adox Pan 25 suffers intensely from pinholes. I am very careful with all my processing, and it has never been a problem before, even when using Adox CHS 25. Something about the Pan 25 I just can't shake. I have tried both using and not using a stop bath, and am now going to try using PMK to harden the emulsion, hopefully that will help. Presoak isn't really necessary, there is barely any dye that comes out, its a very light green on the first fill and dump, and a bluish on the second. However I do presoak all the same, mostly because of my pinhole problem. I do process the film in a tank, but ever so gently, like any other film, perhaps I need to move this one to the trays. There is also a very bad curl from the film, it is a very thin sheet.

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    Whoa! Talk about thread resurrection!

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    I've eliminated pinholes by adding a couple of drops of Edwal LFN to the developer. I don't presoak. The Ortho 25 and Pan 25 films have become regulars in my shooting.

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