Substitute for Ansco 130

[JBrunner]

The suggestions of other developers are good, but none will "substitute" for 130. It's about the glycin. The suggestions for ordering glycin in a large amount and mixing and keeping it in solution to preserve it are the best ones, if you are truly looking for 130 like properties.

[dpurdy]

Just to chime in on Glycin, I just ordered via telephone from Photographer's Formulary today a Pound of Glycin which cost 80 USD. Compared to Hydroquinone that is a lot of money. But if you figure you use a liter of working solution and you only use 5 grams of Glycin that means it costs something around a dollar a batch for the Glycin which isn't enough to worry about too much but then the issue is definitely storage if you want to keep it bright and fresh. However I just tried it out last week with Glycin that was stored room temp in a drawer for something like 2.5 years and it was a light brown color but worked fine.

PS Also right now at Photographers Formulary they have free shipping for a pound of Glycin.

[jim appleyard]

Oh dear, Christmas in bathing suits? What is the world coming to?

[ronlamarsh]

I don't know if "brown "glycin means itsd bad but photographers formulary in Montana(usa) has their own 130 developer pre-packaged in a box at a very fair price. I don't know if its any easier to get into Australia though.

[Lyn Arnold]

Looks as though I will have to 'bite the bullet' and order more Glycin. Last time the shipping charge was more than one third of the total cost for just 100 grams. I'll order a larger amount this time.

Thanks all

[Colin Graham]

The powder does in fact freeze well.

[dpurdy]

Free shipping from Photographers Formulary right now if you order a pound... or anything over 75 dollars. Christmas special.

[juan]

I have frozen glycin for almost three years. I then used it not only in Ansco 130, but also in a film developer with only the glycin as the developing agent. YMMV.
juan

[nworth]

I agree with the Ilford Warmtone suggestion. It's not quite the same, but pretty close. Well diluted ID-78 is probably a close match to the Ilford Warmtone.

[Tom Hoskinson]

I agree with the Ilford Warmtone suggestion. It's not quite the same, but pretty close. Well diluted ID-78 is probably a close match to the Ilford Warmtone.

Yes, dilute it, and you can also add some more Potassium Bromide (up to 3 or 4 times the 4.5 grams that the recipe calls for). This will further warm the tone.