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Thread: Elke 25 & Pyro

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    I have a few negs (4x5) I shot last weekend on Mt. Rainier on Elke 25. I can't seem to find a time for Pyro. I have at my disposal for WD2D+ and PMK (I would prefer to use the WD2D+). The closes film I can seem to find for this is either Elke 100 or Agfa 25.

    Any ideas?

    I also have a couple of Bergger 200 you process also. I was look at about 11.5 mins at 20C. If I'm way off, please let me know.

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    Steve,
    If these are important negatives and considering the developers that you have, I would place a phone call to Photographers Formulary. They will have development times for those two developers and those films. Good luck.
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    I tried one neg at 8 mins and it looked a little thin (but I'm really not sure what pyro negs should look like) so I did the next one at 10. It was a little denser. I'll try to contact sheet them tomorrow and see what they truly look like. If it works out I'll report back.
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    Results of further testing.

    Bregger 200 (shot at 100)
    Processed at 11.5 mins @20C in WD2D+

    The negs still seem a little thin. I'll get a chance the contact sheet them tonight.

    Elke 25 (shot at 25 ISO)
    Processed at 10 mins @ 20C in WD2D+

    Negs look to be what I say looks like normal density and through a lupe look incrediable. Again I'll contact sheet them tonight and repost.


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    </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (magic823 @ May 13 2003, 09:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Elke 25 (shot at 25 ISO)
    Processed at 10 mins @ 20C in WD2D+
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    Elke? Thew only "Elke" I&#39;ve heard about was Elke Sommer. She is pretty damn well devloped...
    Carpe erratum!!

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    Sorry, I meant Efke 25.

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    </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aggie @ May 13 2003, 07:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> BTW with pyro developers, thin is not bad. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
    It&#39;s bad for me when printing on Azo. I would imagine that it&#39;s also bad for the platinum/palladium/ziatype crowd or for anyone doing carbon prints.

    Also, is a pyro negative really thin? If properly developed in a staining concoction with low general stain, the stain adds density which you can&#39;t see. Maybe your statement would be more accurate if we reworded it as: "...with pyro developers, what APPEARS to be thin may not be bad".
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    The proof is in the print... it is hard to guage how a negative will print just by looking at it, you will just have to try printing it. Efke pl25 lends itself to contrast, you should probably get decent results with compensating developers as well as with straight ABC. It seems to pick up much less &#39;general stain&#39; in abc compared to pl100.
    It&#39;s an interesting film and is reasonably priced.
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