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    Ilford's Ilfosol 3

    Ilford announced a revision of Ilfosol S called Ilfosol 3 a year and more ago but I haven't heard anything since then.

    Has it been scraped along with the other R&D new products?

    Ilfosol S has been my developer of choice for a couple years now but considering I can't buy it off the shelf anymore and the fact that a box of bottles must last for many months, I would have liked something with more life to it.
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    I too, have been waiting patiently for news on this upgrade.

    Simon?



    Dan
    ... Hmmm..., f5.13 @ 1/23 should do it.

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    When I made an enquiry to Ilford about two years ago I was told it was to be introduced soon. I have not seen it in England yet though.


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    Ari. It's not an answer to your question but given the supply problem in Crete and the longevity of the powder developers and in my opinion their comparabilty to Ilfosol, I wonder if Ilfosol 3, should it arrive, is an answer to your developing unless it has a very much extended life. I have used Ilfosol quite a lot recently and I don't think it's a real improvement over say ID11. DDX might be. I have switched to this now and I think it is an improvement and reputedly it has a longer life. How much longer a shelf life remains to be seen in my case as I haven't had it long enough but 12 months is often quoted.

    Powder of course has virtually an indefinite life until mixed. Nice to see you posting again. I thought you'd become the " Cretan Runner" as in running away from us but Cretans have too much determination and stamina to give up.

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    PU, as a matter of fact, Ilfosol and PQ Universal have been the only developers that were sold in stores before they went all digital. I used to shun it as I thought it would be for amateurs or something (small bottle, being sold here) until I tried and fall in love with it. I have been using D-76 until then and sometimes ID-11, but have also tried Rodinal, Perceptol and Microphen. D-76 had to be special ordered from Athens and I used to get me a few packages every time I visited (which is not too often as I hate the rat-city). DDX I don't think is sold in Greece and even if it was, I would probably not go with it (why pay shipping for all that water).

    But you are right. Let's say Ilfosol 3 is introduced. Will the Ilford Athens distributor bring it? I seriously doubt it as he is more or less given up on analog (they know nothing about the new Ilford products). Simon says he knows him personally, but I wouldn't count on that doing any good. So, probably I guess its mostly curiosity.

    I have a box of Ilfosol S and when they run out (pretty soon), I will see if I can get some more. If I can't, I will probably switch to D-76. You never know, I might even bother mixing my own chems. I got The Cookbook and all. I wonder though if I can find them around here...

    PU, I will keep shooting until I run off film, chems and papers and/or something breaks that I can't fix. Then I will see what I will do about it. Probably sell my Hassies to one of you spoiled brats. Until then, I will keep running I guess.

    I have discussed this in another thread, but you can see how it goes:
    if you are not going to stock it, I am not going to buy it.
    Last edited by arigram; 01-27-2008 at 06:17 PM. Click to view previous post history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pentaxuser View Post
    I wonder if Ilfosol 3, should it arrive, is an answer to your developing unless it has a very much extended life.
    Extended life was given as the main improvement when I enquired.


    Main part of e-mail received from Sue Evans at Ilford:

    With the specific developer you used though (Ilfosol S), in some ways I am
    not entirely baffled that you got normal/good results using the same time
    for the higher dev with this specific developer though (instead of the
    normal - to reduce the time) - as Ilfosol (out of all our dev range), is
    actually a developer which can sometimes have a lack of robustness -
    especially as it gets old, and can sometime lead to thinner results with
    advised dev times. So - by using the longer dev - in a way you are
    compensating for this effect and avoiding getting thin results.
    ie - this specific dev is one which will always favour more from being used
    with longer times than we quote - as opposed to shorter times than we
    quote. So that you in effect gave a longer dev time than normally required
    - thats why I am sure you achieved good results!

    This too, is also why for this specific developer (just for your
    information/interest) - we will be launching in the near future a new
    improved version of it called Ilfosol 3
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    Ilfosol is however the only developer from our range which can sometimes
    have this almost lack of robustness / a deterioration as it gets older
    which will occasionally lead to thinner than desired end image results.
    Ilfosol 3 has been designed to make it alot more stable product which will
    not suffer from any loss as it ages.
    Hope this helps with your clarification,
    Regards and happy printing



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    So... nothing new about it? I guess it must have been quietly dropped.
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    I think we'll see this new developer in the very near future.
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    Dear All,

    We will all see this developer in the near future : When I do have the launch details I will let APUG know

    Regards

    Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

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    That's great.
    Be sure to tell your guy in Greece, 'cause I will be getting some boxes as soon as they are available.
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