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    semi matt paper suggestions?

    I'm looking to try out some matt papers - having only been a glossy kind of person until now, I'm not 100% sure what is good and what isnt. I've tried Ilford MGIV Matt which is far too mat for my taste, and also the MGFB warmtone semi matt which is the perfect surface, but I dont want the warmtone base - so a kind of cross between the two would be in the right direction. Any suggestions? It's got to be available in the UK also and in a 91/2 x 12 size too.

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    I don't use RC much but I really, really like Kentmere semi-matte fiber paper.

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    Have a look at Kentmere WT fineprint. Lovely surface. I use it with eukbrom and both NA and WA nuetol. I also like the way it will lith as well.

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    Eric - I never use RC for printing anything other than contacts

    Thanks David - can you comment on how it responds to thio toning? I find the Ilford warmtone can have a sickly yellow in the highlights which I find really unpleasant - the neutral papers seem to have a nicer effect when using thio?

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    Quite difficult to find . fomatone Mg is realy semimat ( even if call matt) but warm ,. And the matt fomabrom is as matt as ilford.
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    Leon,

    I'll second the Fomatone MG matt, which has a bit of a sheen, more like semi-gloss.

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    I'm pretty much sold on Kentmere FB paper in 'Finegrain' I use both the warmtone and the neutral one (which, unlike Ilford, are the same speed). It tones well, too and (at the moment, at least) is still a bit cheaper than Ilford.

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    Kentmere fineprint WT responds v.well to most toners. Processed in eukobrom it cools off well in 1+15 selenium, and reacts well to gold. I also get good warmtones using neutol WA and then fotospeed sepia toner, sometimes followed by selenium. The only combination I didnít like was the recent Ilford cooltone dev, this appeared to give a slight yellow tint to the base, which would clash with any subsequent toning. Prolonged selenium after lith processing is also interesting.

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    In the end, I opted for a warmer base and bought several packs of the fomatone mg matt, and it is superb - perfect for the job I'm doing. I've used it before in the glossy finish, but I must say the matt version is much much nicer. The only problem is the paper speed is so slow, but a small price to pay. It responds beautifully to a light thio highlight toning. I much prefer it to the ilford warmtone matt. The blacks are in no way compromised with the foma matt as they are with the ilford papers - although this is only based on visual asessment. Aesthetically, I dont think this would work as well for large prints - the Ilford MG warmtone glossy seems to hold it's own in that department, but a series of 8x8 prints on the 9 1/2 x 12 foma paper look good enough to eat.

    thanks for all the tips everyone - they were most helpful

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon View Post
    I'm looking to try out some matt papers - having only been a glossy kind of person until now, I'm not 100% sure what is good and what isnt. I've tried Ilford MGIV Matt which is far too mat for my taste, and also the MGFB warmtone semi matt which is the perfect surface, but I dont want the warmtone base - so a kind of cross between the two would be in the right direction. Any suggestions? It's got to be available in the UK also and in a 91/2 x 12 size too.
    From what you're looking for the Fomatone semi-matt may also be too warm. Maybe the Foma Variant in semi-matt? This is a VC paper with a good contrast range & a bright white base.

    http://www.silverprint.co.uk/paper13.html#Variant

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