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    Fomatone (don't mean to hijack)

    This is all really fascinating information.

    The comment you made on Fomatone has me a bit worried. It's my favorite lith paper, and if it has changed, it will be tough to find anything that is anything near what that paper is like.
    Will you please, with sugar on top, let us know here what you find in regards to that? I am just about to purchase paper again, and don't want to spend hundreds of dollars in vain.

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    Gene never seemed to accept there was any alternative to Kodalith LP and put a whole chapter devoted to it in his book although it had long gone by then.

    Yes, it was a great shame the way Sterling Lith went downhill after the first batches. One never really gets straight answers from manufacturers about emulsion chemistry, but I expect it had something to do with having to reduce the cadmium content or changing another restricted ingredient.

    I did some printing on Fomatone glossy (with a standard warmtone dev.) a week or two ago & found it to be much yellower in base colour than when we first began importing it. I haven't tried lithing it yet, but fear the worst, the cadmium may have gone, & the base tint has been bigged-up to compensate. I think you have been holding it up as the last true resource for lith, Tim, so we'd better look into it.
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    Hi Mike

    The Oriental G 4 that I purchased not 6 months ago seemed to work quite well. I have used the original G4 that was frozen and my memory says it popped maybe more than the current version but the VC version does not work so well in my darkroom.

    Kodak Elite , though not a favorite paper for regular printing for me , was a beautiful paper for lith printing, it really went wacky .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    This is all really fascinating information.

    The comment you made on Fomatone has me a bit worried. It's my favorite lith paper, and if it has changed, it will be tough to find anything that is anything near what that paper is like.
    Will you please, with sugar on top, let us know here what you find in regards to that? I am just about to purchase paper again, and don't want to spend hundreds of dollars in vain.
    Thanks,
    - Thomas
    Sorry, I don't want to start a panic, I'll get Shane at work (he's the lith specialist) to have a good look at the current Foma glossy & semimatt in the next day or 2 & report back.

    Martin

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    David Lyons was using Kodalith during the late 1970's early '80's.

    He exhibited some of his Kodalith prints in his one-man exhibition, "Beyond the Fields We Know", at the Side Gallery, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, England, 1979. Some of this work was also published in Camera magazine around about the same time.

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    Gene Nokon, a British import to San Diego, may not have been the first, but he likely was the first to make lith printing well known. I don't know the year he won the Ilford annual contest with lith prints, but it was about 20 years ago. Prior to his emigration to the US he was photographer to one of the princes and did a lot of work with the Royal Family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Noel View Post
    Gene Nokon, a British import to San Diego, may not have been the first, but he likely was the first to make lith printing well known.
    I'm not sure that's right at all, I seem to remember that Bob Carlos Clarke's images were very widely published before Gene Nocon became known. I've never seen or read anything about Gene Nocon and Lith prints, I think there were a number of people making lith prints around the late 70's early 80's.

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    Such an interesting thread. Mike Spry is an absolute genius. I've been to a few Corbijn exhibitions and his printing makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck. Genius.

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    Wow, a lot of great information here!

    Just a note on the Michael Becotte book. I had known of his work since the early 80s but had been unable to locate a copy of his book ( http://www.apug.org/forums/forum54/3...h-getting.html ). I did not know it was 'lith' at the time. I was more interested in his 'Post-Friedlander' style.

    Anyway, with the magic of the internet, I did a Amazon search and found multiple places to purchase the Becotte book. I wound up getting a mint copy for less than $30.

    This was almost a year ago. I still did not recognize it as 'lith' printing until two nights ago when I did my first lith print. It then hit me and I put two and two together. It was a great moment to finally understand Becotte's work after all these years.

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    "lithos" is actually a greek word, one of the words for "stone".
    "Lithografia" is the actual greek term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Noel View Post
    Gene Nokon, a British import to San Diego, may not have been the first, but he likely was the first to make lith printing well known. I don't know the year he won the Ilford annual contest with lith prints, but it was about 20 years ago. snip.
    It would have been a bit earlier. I met him when I won the Ilford ap printer of the year award in (I think) 83 or 84. He was already an Ilford printer award winner by then and judged my entry.
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