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    dektol as a film developer can give quite "normal" results too
    http://www.apug.org/forums/forum37/3...tml#post356022

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    Hi,

    if you're lith printing, just make sure to overexpose the print by a LOT in the enlarger for a very early snatch point. I've attached a print I made the other day. It's from a 4x5 negative, Tri-X in Pyrocat-HD developer. When I make a regular 11x14 print from this, I can't see grain at all. The lith print is different as you can see. This is from an 8x10 print and it's very grainy.
    May I suggest Fotokemika Varycon for grainy results when lith printing? It is a beautiful paper in lith. I used Forte Polygrade for this print, but it's no longer made.

    Basically, as long as you get your printing done right with respect to grain, it doesn't matter much how grainy your negative is - as far as lith printing is concerned.

    Hope this helps.

    - Thomas

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    thanks, I'm hoping the lith developer and the overexposure will give me the texture and charcoal like grain I'm after....I may stick with Fuji 1600 and push it much further. I see your photo as quite fine grain, I'm taking charcoal like grains!
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    thank you Thomas, I like the effect very much but I will be using Foma Fomatone paper and may try some tinting too.

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    Yeah, push till you can't push any more. I've seen Tri-X pushed to 6400 that looks like the pepper fog you get during a long batch of lith printing. Go for it, experiment. Break the rules.

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    Neopan 1600 and rodinal 1+50 or stronger and rate the film at 640.

    AND print using a condenser enlarger (not diffusion) or even better a point source if you have access to one.

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    If you are using Fomatone, I don't think you really need to worry how much grain the negative has. Even with a low grain negative, Fomatone has huge grain....I don't think the negative would have much effect. I'd try what you have.

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    You want to find some cold stored Kodak 2475 Recording Film. Develop in HC-110 Dil B. Grain the size of golf balls. And remember, you want some that's been cold stored. It will be many years out of date by now...

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    thank you everyone I am saving all these experiments you suggest to try out after I have submitted my project.

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