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    Plus-X - What the...?

    I decided to try some Plus-X 120 film and my first impression is horrible...

    I developed a roll for testing in the same tank as two rolls of Tri-X 400 120. The two rolls of Tri-X came out perfect, as they always do, and the Plus-X came out like the attachment shows. What the heck happened here?

    Film: Kodak 125PX, 120 roll
    Dev: Pyrocat-MC 1+1+100 (13 minutes, agitate full 1st min, then twice every 3 mins, 70*F)
    Stop: Water
    Fix: Ilford Hypam 1+4 (fresh)
    Wash and dry with PhotoFlo

    What's going on? Can we single out flm problem here?

    Thanks for your insight.

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    Whew! I could imagine several things, but most likely seems to me to be pressure marks judging only from appearance. When or where that might have happened, who knows? I'm only guessing.
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    I use the same film, developer combination and time, but mine don't look anything like that. Could it just be a defective roll? Of all the troubleshooting I've had to do in the past and books I've read, I haven't seen anything like that. It looks like streaks of something maybe on the left hand side. Try again maybe and see if it persists?

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    Is the roll uniform with all the frames showing the same issues? I'm not sure of the cause but I saw a streaking similar what's on the left side your image, though much less pronounced on a roll of acros I recently processed in pyrocat at the same dilution. I saw it running lengthwise, and only on one frame. My only theory (and I'm not sure it's a good one), is that some crystals that have formed around the mouth of the B solution got into the developer.

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    I'm going to try a roll in Xtol today to see if the problem goes away.
    All three rolls developed were shot with the same camera, a Mamiya 645, so I have to disregard gainer's suggestion about pressure, at least from the camera back point of view.
    I'll post my results here, as I have a hard time imagining Kodak producing film with these issues. I want to like Plus-X so badly, especially since I printed a client's negatives that were shot on it. Great prints resulted.
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    Yes, something wrong with that particular roll of film, or something went wrong with processing that particular roll. I don't think that Pyrocat is to blaim either. I remember seeing similar artifacts, but it was a long time ago and I don't remember neither the cause nor the cure.
    While Plus-X never have been a favourite of mine, it's only a matter of finding the receipe which will make that film sing for you. (Pyrocat is a good start. Kind of a magic bullet for most of the films I've tried it with.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    I'm going to try a roll in Xtol today to see if the problem goes away.
    All three rolls developed were shot with the same camera, a Mamiya 645, so I have to disregard gainer's suggestion about pressure, at least from the camera back point of view.
    I'll post my results here, as I have a hard time imagining Kodak producing film with these issues. I want to like Plus-X so badly, especially since I printed a client's negatives that were shot on it. Great prints resulted.
    - Thomas

    Yes, same camera, but different film backs? I once had a white scratch issue with a Bronica back. Turns out it was an ever-so-small rough spot on one of the rollers. A piece of ultra fine sandpaper fixed the problem.

    Plus-X is a great film and while it *COULD* happen, a defect in the film is not likely. I've been shooting Kodak film for 30 years and haven't seen one yet. The QC at EK is great.

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    They almost look like pressure/contacts marks. Any chance the emulsion side came in contact with another part of the film during processing? There would likely be at least another with this if it did.
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    Bob,
    all the negs have some artifact on them, they're all different though.
    Thanks for your suggestion.
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    I hated the roll I tried of Plus-X. I had it done by a lab and I'm hoping it was their fault, because the negs were terrible. I like Tri-X and T-max so much better...but I guess I won't know for sure until I develop them myself.
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