Warmtone, cream base, non-matte, fiber-based papers. What are my choices?

[Philippe Grunchec]

Thomas: the discontinued 532 had the same textured surface as the 542, but on a whiter base. The new 532 should be more similar to the 132.

[smieglitz]

Thanks for all the suggestions and information. I also found this FOMA info through one of the APUG banner ads.

joe

[smieglitz]

I just finished a couple days of printing with the FOMATONE Classic MG Glossy and Natural surface warm-tone papers and I really like them. They are very responsive to toning treatments and remind me of old Portriga Rapid in that sense. The cream base compliments the image and toning colors nicely and the Natural surface should be great for hand-coloring.

Thanks to all for their suggestions.

Joe

[smieglitz]

Here's some toning examples I just did on the Fomatone MG Classic Warm-tone Cream-base Natural 532 surface.



All the prints were split-filter printed at the same settings and developed in Silvergrain Tektol Standard developer (diluted 1+ 14) for 150 seconds.


The toners were:

Kodak Rapid Selenium Toner (KRST) diluted 1+6
Thiourea-Sepia toner (Sepia Y) @ 50 thiourea:10 NaOH:440 water for a yellow toner; ferricyanide bleach was 30 seconds
Thiourea-Sepia toner (Sepia P) @ 10 thiourea:50 NaOH: 440 water for a more purple tone; ferricyanide bleach was either 30 seconds or 300 seconds
Clerc's Thiourea-Gold Toner (Au)


1st row: no toner; KRST 30 sec; KRST 120 sec

2nd row: Sepia Y w/30 sec bleach; Sepia P w/30 sec bleach; Sepia P w/300 sec bleach

3rd row: Au 300 sec; Sepia P w/30 sec bleach then Au 300 sec; KRST 120 sec then Au 600 sec [my favorite]

4th row: Au 120 sec then KRST 120 sec; Au 300 sec then KRST 120 sec


I like the purple shadows/blue highlight split I got using selenium toner for 2 minutes followed by the gold toner for 10 minutes.

[rorye]

This is very interesting information, thanks very much for sharing your findings!
R

[Phillip P. Dimor]

Foma.. get it before they stop making it. I don't mean to scare you but in my case, once I find something I like.. they stop making it.

[Gary Holliday]

Originally Posted by Phillip P. Dimor

Foma.. get it before they stop making it. I don't mean to scare you but in my case, once I find something I like.. they stop making it.

They've already stopped making 532, they are producing a variation called 532 II.

Great examples, I love looking at comparison charts like this. I'm liking the stronger selenium photo, it has great depth.

[yankeesnapper]

If you can get your hands on some Forte's Warmtone Art, it is/was very close to Ektalure. Maybe @ Ebay.

[Thomas Bertilsson]

Top right (Sel 120) and second from bottom left (Gold 300) have similar black values, and I think the best depth and impact because of it. All of them are wonderful, and very nicely displays how versatile this paper is and how it can be used for almost any printing need.

Great stuff, Joe. My hat's off to you for doing such thorough research.

- Thomas