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    stinky fixer. is odorless "better"?

    i just started developing my own b&w film and i use ilford's rapid fixer. man, does that stuff stink! i am now looking to buying some odorless rapid fixer like arista's but i was wondering if the change in fixer would affect the quality of the film in any way? are (nonhardening) fixers pretty much generic and therefore there aren't really any noticeable differences between them? i am shooting hp4 plus 120 film.

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    I have the same problem, with the odor making me a little light headed. The Arista requires a 2 minute fix verses a 4-5 fix with Ilford. I assume this is okay, but would also like some clarification.

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    Odorless fixer is often [always??] neutral or akaline. Plenty of us avoid acid fixer. Works just fine.

    C-41 and other colour film all use non-acid fix.

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    Strange I've used Ilford Hypam for over 30 years and never had a problem. I did try May & Baker (Champion) Amfix and that did have a distinct smell.

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    I use Fotospeed's FX30 odourless fixer for both film and paper and I find its a very good product. Does what it 'says on the tin'.

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    Odourless fixers are a nice invention. I used them mainly for paper, but now for film development as well. No problem.
    As Ilford films don´t need hardening, every quality fixer would do it I think. I use Amaloco because it´s cheap,
    but chemically all modern fixers are nearly the same, brand name doesn´t matter that much.
    You should always make an clearance test! When loading the film in the spiral, cut a strip of a few millimeters off
    and put it in your fixer solution. Then measure the time until the strip becomes clear and multiply it by the factor 2, that´s your fixing time.
    (for classic films, Deltas would need factor 3 if I remember well)
    Once I made the mistake of fixing not enough, so my films turned out pink. After doubling the time they were clear.
    I´ve never used the rapid fixer, but it seems uncommon that fixer stinks "out of the box". I used non-odourless fixers
    in the past and made the experience that they became more and more stinky the older the solution was.
    I´ve got old fixer solution that turned black and it stinks really horrible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Zentena View Post
    Odorless fixer is often [always??] neutral or akaline. Plenty of us avoid acid fixer. Works just fine.

    C-41 and other colour film all use non-acid fix.
    Kodak Flexicolor Fixer is just on the acid side of neutral (pH is 6-point-something). Smell is minimal, price is low.

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    I use Amaloco's X89 fixer: fast (2 min. for Tmax), efficient (for lots of films) and it does not stink so badly. And it's cheap.

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    I have used TF4 fixer from Photographer's Formulary with excellent results.


    web site: Dan Henderson, Photographer.com

    blog: https://danhendersonphotographer.wordpress.com/

    I am not anti-digital. I am pro-film.

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    Any rapid fixer mixed at film strength will work fine. Modern films do not need hardeners added. I have used the Fotospeed odourless mentioned above in the past and now use Agfa FX Universal (intended for minilabs I believe) which is much cheaper and similarly as low in odour.

    I do not find any of them totally odourless: "low-odour" would be a more accurate description I think, but perhaps I am more sensitive than most people to it. I do get a sore throat if I use "normal" fixer in trays but with the low-odour ones - and using a citric acid stop-bath too - I find I only switch my fans on when I remember to do so.

    Cheers, Bob.

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