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Old 08-20-2008, 11:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Hey all,

I have heard this word thrown around a lot...lith...

I know it's a way to produce very contrasy prints. But, how do you do it? I've seen a few websites about it, but what is the best website that explains what Lith is, and a process on how to print lith images?

Thanks for all the help I've received so far. This is a great forum.
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Old 08-20-2008, 11:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Start here: http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/Lith/lith.html

Then get Tim Rudman's book, "the World of Lith Printing"
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Old 08-20-2008, 11:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Lith printing - a Google search will produce a lot of good information, actually. The best resource for learning lith printing is the book by Tim Rudman. Search for 'The World of Lith Printing'.

Basically, you use a highly dilute lith film developer, and you control contrast by exposure time, but methods with flashing are also great. Some people use their contrast filters and triple the time they used for a good normal print. I like to not use any filters and I start at 40 seconds at f/8 with a normal neg for an 8x10 print and I work from there. Graded paper and variable contrast papers both work, but not all papers in those categories will work.

There is a lot to know about the subject. The results can be very eyecatching, and it's the technique I prefer, even over regular black&white printing.

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Old 08-20-2008, 11:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Hi; The Fotospeed LD20 lith developer comes with pretty decent instructions but Tim Rudman's " The Master Photographer's Lith Printing Course: A Definitive Guide to Creative Lith Printing" is pretty much the THE book for learning this technique. Regarding papers-I like to look at images in the gallery here and on flickr to see what different papers look like. It's alot of fun. Enjoy-

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Does anyone publish on the Internet a list of if and how various papers respond to lith printing?

If not, maybe an APUG page to which we could all contribute our experiences would be helpful.

It would certainly help me.
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
 
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2F/2F - take a look at Tim Rudman's web site. Just Google 'The World of Lith Printing' and there will be a link to click. He lists all papers that lith well.
I also think Freestyle has a comprehensive list, but I can't seem to find it.
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:24 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
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Does anyone publish on the Internet a list of if and how various papers respond to lith printing?

If not, maybe an APUG page to which we could all contribute our experiences would be helpful.

It would certainly help me.
Dear 2F/2F
I have published 2 paper upgrades in the past, both are on Unblinking Eye and on alternativephotography.com. Papers have changed a lot though and so I published a new update in The World of Lith Printing, (with examples from many artists). The WOLP website mailing list received updates to the book list and then updates to the updates! We live in a changing world. They are on the site's news archive.
However, in preparation for the upcoming lith workshops at The Photographer's Formulary I am in the process of a new full list. This will go out to my WOLP mailing list and to the mailing list on my new still unfinished personal site at www.timrudman.com . I'll let APUG know when it is ready. It should have been done by now but this new site is taking my time.
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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Fotospeed also has a nice little starter kit for lith printing--it has a little developer and 10 sheets of paper in it, plus instructions. It's a pretty affordable way to start exploring the lith field.
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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I found Lith to be fun and easy to do. I even used Lith printing with my kids and it was great. You don't have to labor over exposure with the enlarger, just blast it. Then snatch the print from the developer when it looks good. The kids picked up on it right away!
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