[quote=PHOTOTONE;672356]People seldom mention working with Oriental Seagull paper. It is still around, and available from several vendors in the USA.
Is it just not popular anymore? Is it now just a private label brand for another well known line lf papers?
At one time, this used to be the "ultimate" b/w paper for many. I, however, have never tried the fibre based Oriental Seagull papers.
I have used Seagull in the past and liked it, but not enough to pay the addtional cost compaired to Ilford, Kentmeyer, or for that matter Salvich. I think seagull is the most expensive, or at least near the top of price list. I dont know who makes Seagull, perhaps Fuji.
Oriental Seagull is still alive and kicking and available at freestyle for very reasonable prices comapred to Ilford and other european papers that have gone up in price significantly. The new priental paper is not the same as those mythical papers they used to make, but still good nonetheless. Ilford, FOMA, and Bergger are more pricey than Oriental...much more!
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After many years of printing with RC paper (but to be honest, fairly low volume printing) I decided to make the jump to fiber paper. After studying the different types and manufacturers of FB paper in the Freestyle cataloge, I decided on the Oriental VC FB paper; white whites, black blacks. After the first 25 sheet pack, i'm now ready to open the new 50 sheet pack. So far, so good. At Freestyle, Oriental is CHEAPER than Ilford, Kentmere and others, but a little more expensive than the Arista line of papers. I don't know where Paul is getting his pricing.
As I said, I'm not a master printing by any means, don't do as much printing as I would like but the Oriental paper seems to do what I want it to do.
I recently purchased some Kentmere and some Oriental FB VC to compare to Ilford MG. I haven't done the tests yet, but I intend to report here when I get around to it.
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Oriental Seagull is still alive and kicking and available at freestyle for very reasonable prices comapred to Ilford and other european papers that have gone up in price significantly. The new priental paper is not the same as those mythical papers they used to make, but still good nonetheless. Ilford, FOMA, and Bergger are more pricey than Oriental...much more!
100 sheets of Seagull 8X10 FB grade 2 is $102.99. At least $25 more than any others, double Salvich.
Anyone in the UK using it ??
It used to be about the most expensive paper over here.
Made in Japan I think. I only ever used it very briefly for lith work and it was gorgeous ! Gave much gentler lith look which I really liked.
I think when it first came out it was called Seagull, then the company went under, resurfaced and produced it again but was named Oriental ?
Silverprint was the main stockist over here but it disappeared never to be seen again. I assumed it was out of production
Bill
I began using Seagull FB after Zone VI dropped the French-made Brilliant. I found the Seagul completely adquate in comparison. IIRC, it was originally made by Mitsubishi. Don't know who would make it now.
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what about Oriental Seagull paper? 
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