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    Superia 400 in id-11

    Somebody has a recipe for color film in id-11?

    I suspect since all color films are developed in c-41, they also share the same recipe for developing in b/w.

    Times? temperatures? fix? stop? wash?

    thanks.

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    I've done C-41 film in B&W developer - I have no idea the time, I did develop by inspection. Stop, fix and wash pretty much the same as for B&W films. You get a B&W image with an orange mask. The results are printable, but less than stellar.

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    What result do you hope to obtain?

    If what you want is a "normal" looking black and white picture from something you have shot on color neg film, you are better off just developing your film in C-41 chemistry and making the print black and white via a number of methods, the "best" of which is probably scanning. If you want to print your color negs on b/w paper for sure, ask the lab to push your film at least one stop to make printing easier.

    If you want a special effect, just have at it and experiment. Then let us know what you did, and what you got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lopaka View Post
    ...The results are printable, but less than stellar.
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    You're being charitable. I've done it too. I suspect we all have. IIRC it was about 10 minutes at 75F in D-76 1+1. Results were pretty bad, and I never bothered to print any of the negatives.
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    Well I once accidentally processed an 8x10 E100VS transparency in Pyrocat and got the attached.
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    That's E6, not C-41. Different game.
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    Quite so.

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    So you guys advise to use slide film for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palantiri7 View Post
    Well I once accidentally processed an 8x10 E100VS transparency in Pyrocat and got the attached.
    Given the results, I'm surprised you only did it once.

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    Additionally there is a Kodak tech publication that describes a mild bleaching solution with (I believe) Farmer's Reducer and citric acid that they say will dissolve the dye couplers in colour films after development in standard B&W chems. (The orange mask I think is permanent regardless.)

    Unfortunately it's no longer available online - I requested a copy some time ago, and they were more than happy to mail a hard copy to me. It's at home right now and I'm not, so I don't have the details.

    I believe it's been mentioned here before, and PE expressed his doubts about the viability of the procedure, but I can't find the thread now. If I can find it later I'll post more details...
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