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    Ilford wash method.

    I often hear of the Ilford wash method. Something along the lines of:
    Fill tank and give 5 inversions, sit some length of time, dump
    Fill tank and give 10 inversions, sit some length of time, dump
    Fill tank and give 20 inversions, sit some length of time, dump
    ( optional Fill tank and give N inversions, sit some length of time, dump )
    This is basically the way I wash. We all know it and know it as the Ilford Wash Method

    My question, where on the Iflod site is this documented. I have searched and not found it anywhere but in an user forums. There is one dead link that may have had it but there is no page or PDF of direct Ilford content that has this method in it.

    Does someone have such a link or a copy of a pdf that may have once existed.
    D-76 is a standard developer, although not one I use.
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    I printed all the pages of instructions for HP5+ and it's buried on one of those pages. I guess I printed those instructions in 2006 when I bought a box of HP5+.

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    I think it's on the individual film data sheets.

    It's on page five of this one for FP4+ http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/...6115141521.pdf




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    I think it's in the film technical data sheets (the pdf downloads), if I remember correctly.

    But Ilford doesn't include the wait times between stages. Anchell & Troop say you need to let the tank sit for five minutes between fill and invert stages.

    Works for me.

    Cheers,

    EDIT: Damn, there are some fast typers around here ...

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    Try looking in their data sheets it is there.

    Or Perhaps this page.

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    Thanks, Steve and all. I have looked at some of thje processing I like get stated ) and i was not in there. The TI for the the films have it

    Thanks.
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    ps: As I recall, there is no waiting time.

    Fill
    5 inversions
    Dump

    Repeat with 10 inversions.

    Repeat with 20 inversions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venchka View Post
    ps: As I recall, there is no waiting time.

    Fill
    5 inversions
    Dump

    Repeat with 10 inversions.

    Repeat with 20 inversions.
    As I said above, Ilford doesn't mention a waiting time.
    But in "The Film Developing Cookbook" Anchell & Troop state that although the process has been published without the wait time elsewhere (possibly referring to Ilford), this is wrong and the tank should be left to stand for 5 minutes between each fill and set of inversions.

    It can't hurt.

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    Ah, the ideal conditions for a flame war

    PS No, I'm not insinuating anything for those who have posted up till now.

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    Ah to wait 5 mins or not to wait 5 mins, that is the question to quote from Hamlet. Well certainly it's not a quote from Harman Technology but it is an interesting question, as would be the answers to: What's the evidence that causes Steve Anchell and maybe others to say you should wait?

    You'd think that Harman would have researched what a waiting period does or at least checked that the Ilford method without waits reduced the fixer content to archival proportions. If Harman doesn't say to wait can we take it that it has concluded that waits aren't necessary? I wish I knew.

    I'd would be nice to hear from Harman on this subject as it's come up at least twice in about the same number of weeks

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