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    Im sorry I don't know their origin. and on one in the images is wearing army uniforms nor are they using what I imagine army weapons would have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Frizza View Post
    The motion films are a 1930's collection of people being tortured and murdered in a variety of very brutal ways. From acts of being shot through the head at close range to being beheaded or gutted or to having their neck broken and then buried alive with only the bare ass remaining out of the ground...
    and a list of other revoltingly disturbing acts.
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    Such things happened, I am told, during the Japanese war on China. Somewhat earlier, late 1920s, the Koumintang "suppression" of the communists was awfully brutal. Both were filmed.
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    Use the edge codes to tell the age:

    http://www.sabucat.com/?pg=datecodechart

    What appear to be the nationality of the people?


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    OK, I went back in the thread and looked at the low rez image you posted. You may have Japanese atrocity footage from Japanese invasion of China in WWII.

    I'd contact Screensound Australia (now the National Film and Sound Archive) if you want it identified and/or preserved; it may be unique footage.

    http://www.nfsa.gov.au/about_us/contact_us.html

    Here's a good resource for handling it...

    http://www.nfsa.gov.au/preservation/film_handbook/
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    thanks so much for this code info

    according to that table and the codes on these films they are from two dates

    Rochester USA as the tins the film are also indicating (double circle 1939)
    and the second lot (circle Square 1942)
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    Bet it is footage of the Japanese subjugation of Formosa (Taiwan).

    BTW: your footage was shot with camera with an academy aperture, so it was intended to be integrated into a sound production -- for what it is worth.

    A lot of the early WWII footage is Full Aperture and shot with cameras of the Silent Era, so the maker was well-heeled.
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    Least graphic? What was it, a 1930's porno movie or somethoing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kino View Post
    Bet it is footage of the Japanese subjugation of Formosa (Taiwan).

    BTW: your footage was shot with camera with an academy aperture, so it was intended to be integrated into a sound production -- for what it is worth.

    A lot of the early WWII footage is Full Aperture and shot with cameras of the Silent Era, so the maker was well-heeled.

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    Formosa was occupied by the Japanese long before this film was shot. Of course, because the film was made in 1939 and 1942 does not, of necessity, indicate it was used in those years.

    According to a relatively recent history of the Rape of Nanking in 1937, the Japanese gave considerable play to its attrocious acts at that time, in the home media market of Japan proper.
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    forgive me but if the film was asian wouldnt they have used fuji stock? not kodak? just curious?
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    The Japanese occupation of the Philippines, which began in December 1941, better fits the time frame.
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    Fuji began production of motion picture film in 1934, so it was certainly around at the time of manufacture of these films. However, without knowing the history, it may not have been as high quality as the Kodak at the time, and if as a previous poster indicated, this film was shot by someone with deep pockets, they may have preferred to use Kodak product regardless of cost. It may well have been a private individual who shot this footage, and not a government entity - actually, in all probability, it was a private individual, as anything shot for the press or for the Japanese government SHOULD still be in some kind of archive in Japan.

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