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Thread: Ilford FP4 plus

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    In 35mm, I always loved two films, both defunct: the APX-100, and the Tri-X (pushed). The others are (for me) just partial replacements.
    In 120, the HP5+ (pulled) remains my last favorite still in life. The other was the Tri-X (pushed).
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    Since when is Tri-X no longer available? Last time I looked, last weekend, there was still plenty of it on the shelves at Adorama, and B&H. Freestyle is stocking it, and so are a lot of other places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLP View Post
    Vaughn, good to know that i am not the only one to have some problems with Ilford film. I have only used PF TF4 and Zonal Pro fixers. If it takes so specialized fixers as the Ilford rapid fixer they can have it. I am no longer going to take Mr. Galleys cheap access to promote what i consider a tier 3 product from Ilford/Harman.
    Kodak Rules and then there's other products that's far beyond what Ilford makes today.
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    Ok so everyone loves FP4. But not one post says why other than it is gorgeous or great or whatever. I used it for a long time in a commercial studio and always thought it was boring. Kind of muggy. the whites didn't sing and the mid tones were muggy. I was forced to use it by the owner of the business and I processed it in HC110 or FG7 or Rodinal and never found anything outstanding about it. For my personal work in those days I would always use AGFA 25 and Rodinal and then later TMX and Beutlers. To this day I have and aversion to FP4.
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    I find FP4+ to be quite versatile. I like it. I can shoot fast or slow with it, and still get nice low grain photographs.





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    Quote Originally Posted by BradS View Post
    Did you have problems with the anti-halation layer clearing?
    Yes, but not just a failure to clear. There appears to be a gelatin layer on the backside of film -- perhaps to hold the anti-halation layer on and perhaps to help keep the film from curling towards the heavier gelatin layer on the other side.

    My guess is that the hardening fix hardened that gelatin layer and would not allow it to release all the chemicals making up the anti-halation layer. What was left was patchy chemical residue-looking junk on the back. JLP -- I believe any non-hardening fix would suffice, but please feel free to maintain your anti-Ilford bias. Kodak does (or in many cases, did) make quality products.

    Perhaps it is because the back of the film is against the wall of the drum and it takes longer to get rid of the layer than with any other development method. Thus the hardener would do its thing before all the components of the hardening layer could be removed. I have not had this problem developing FP4+ in trays and using hardening fixers.

    Long washes would not remove the chemical deposits on the back, though soaking in a tray of fixer after removing the film from the drum did help reduce it. I suppose I could take a few of those negatives and experiment -- try acid baths, alkaline baths (to soften the gelatin), steel wool pads:o, or whatever it takes to clean them up. I have some nice 8x10 negs that I can not use.

    But FP4+ is a good film. HP5+ is a different beast altogether!

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    But FP4+ is a good film. HP5+ is a different beast altogether!

    Vaughn[/QUOTE]

    Yep HP5+ is just wonderful best thing since sliced bread in my book, versatile, punchy and very forgiving in 35mm 120 and 5x4 all deved in ID11.

    Good job we aren't all the same or there would be no diversity at all. Now to try Foma see how it compares. This photography thing is such FUN.
    Best regards Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLP View Post
    If it takes so specialized fixers as the Ilford rapid fixer they can have it.
    I wouldn't consider Ilford Rapid Fixer to be 'specialised'.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JLP View Post
    Good that some can apreciate Ilford film, i can no longer. Whether it is Delta 100 or FP4+ my Jobo Expert drums just does not like Ilford film. I continue to have issues on the back of the film facing the drum. It looks like sombody was walking on my film. I have used pretty much all other Large Format film on the marked and have not seen any issues at all. I am done with Ilford.
    Jan,

    I am surprised you have had these issues. I went thru over 150 sheets of 4x5 and 50 sheets of 8x10 FP4 & HP5 over the last year, all processed in Expert drums, and never had these problems. I was using mostly Pyrocat-HD & D76. My fix was either ilford rapid or Kodak, (about 50/50, its what I can get locallay) granted I never tried TF4 or any other fixers.

    FP4 is my favorite film, followed quickly by Fuji Acros for LF.

    Hope it helps.

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    Is there a significant difference between Plus-X and FP=4? I always thought them very similar," old style" (non-tabular grain) medium speed films. Please disabuse if I am missing something.

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