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    I make ABC pyro, PMK, and Paul Farber's Acufine-ish speed developer for film as well as a few others occasionally, like RAF Pyro-Metol or paRodinal or fx6a monobath. For prints I make Ansco 130 and both versions of Michael A. Smith's amidol.

    I make these developers mainly because I like the visual effects they produce, though other factors like convenience and film speed may also enter into consideration.

    I like to mix developers from bulk chemicals, so that I don't have to worry about them becoming discontinued, and I can mix them fresh in any quantity that is convenient without being tied into manufacturers' packaging decisions.
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    Thanks for all the replies so far. I found this product to be an interesting alternative to the popular Kodak D-76 and Ilford ID-11 developers. It appears to be the D-76d buffered-borax version which can also be mixed from scratch.

    http://www.fomafoto.com/components/c...6589ca6af8.jpg

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    i mix my own ansco 130 ( it lasts forever or so it seems )
    caffenol C ( because it is cheap and fun )
    and i mix caf130 which is caffenol C with some ansco 130 mixed into it
    i pretty much don't use any other print or film developers ...

    i have raw chemicals to mix mortenson's glycin varient, and d23
    but i haven't made / used them yet ...
    im empty, good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    and i mix caf130 which is caffenol C with some ansco 130 mixed into it
    i pretty much don't use any other print or film developers ...
    I tried that with Caffenol C and D-76 1:3 at a 50/50 mixture and it turned out pretty good.

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    D76, ID68, ID78 and parodinal - in descending order of frequency
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Tapscott. View Post
    Thanks for all the replies so far. I found this product to be an interesting alternative to the popular Kodak D-76 and Ilford ID-11 developers. It appears to be the D-76d buffered-borax version which can also be mixed from scratch.

    http://www.fomafoto.com/components/c...6589ca6af8.jpg
    Foma FV3 is D76/ID-11, but the commercial versions have changed slightly. In a Patent Ilford show a referance developer which appears to be ID-11 but with double the Borax.

    It's thought that commercial D76 is probably D76d, Ilford used similar buffering in their Commercial PQ variant of D76.

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    Last edited by Ian Grant; 07-29-2009 at 12:14 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    For film, Germain Finegrain, D76, Pyrocat MC and FX37. For paper, Ansco 130. A number of bleaching formulas and toning formulas..Evan Clarke

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    Modified D23 (adding EDTA and Glycin) for use with Borax
    Ansco 130
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    Film strength Fixer
    Paper strength fixer
    Just standard stuff, really
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    For film, PMK, D23, Caffenol and Rodinal (paracetamol version) and for paper Ansco 130, Defender D77 (or is it D72?) and my own phenidone/ascorbic acid type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    Foma FV3 is D76/ID-11, but the commercial versions have changed slightly. In a Patent Ilford show a referance developer which appears to be ID-11 but with double the Borax.

    It's thought that commercial D76 is probably D76H, Ilford used similar buffering in their Commercial PQ variant of D76.

    Ian
    Ian, I think you are confusing D-76H with D-76d. It is D-76d which is the buffered-borax formula. D-76H as devised by Grant Haist hence the `H` is the basic D-76/ID-11 formula with the hydroquinone omitted and the Metol raised to 2.5 grams per litre of stock.
    To me, D-76H isn`t a developer of the D-76 type, but a weak D-23 variant with a borate added to it. Think about the replenisher for D-23 (DK-25R) and you will see what I mean.
    I`m not sure about the commercial D-76 being D-76d despite what the MSDS says as I believe that the boric anhydride mentioned might be something to do with stabilising developers which have been compounded into single-powders as Kodak do.
    You will have to check out the patents for single-powder developers.
    The formulary in the BJP annuals show that the development times for D-76d need to be extended by anything up to around 25% compared to the standard D-76/ID-11 formula. D-76d is said to give higher base fog as well.
    For further reading about buffered-borax MQ and PQ developers, read `The British Journal Photographic Almanac 1957, pages 138-141 by A.J Axford and J.D Kendall of Ilford Ltd.
    You can see the development times for Fomadon-P (D-76d) on the Digital Truth site which I assume are the times that Foma recommend.
    I would be interested in finding the Ilford patent that you mentioned.

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