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    historical issue: film developers in Germany of 1930s

    What film developer (for roll film and 35 mm) was most commonly used in Germany in 1930s (among those formulated in Germany) and could be considered a kind of standard/ benchmark as D-76 in the US and ID-11 in UK? Could it be Agfa-12?
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    The Agfa/Ansco 12 appears to have been printed in 'Agfa Formulas for Photographic Use,1938.You're probably right.
    http://johnesimmons.com/2008/09/03/agfaansco-12/
    Last edited by Alan Johnson; 08-01-2009 at 11:46 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    A big problem with Agfa is that the German formula sometimes differ from the Agfa Ansco (GAF) ones, while some are identical a few with the same number are entirely different with quite opposite purposes.

    Agfa 19 (German) was the direct equivalent of D76/ID-11 it's identical except for Bromide which must have been used as a starter, these developers were always used in deep tanks at one time, and replenished.

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    Probably Rodinal.

    From what I have read the Leitz/Stoekler/DD23 type developers were also widely used.

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    These German companies sold Developers in the UK in195: Hauff, Fesagel, Agfa, Voightlander (made by Gevaert) there would have been more.

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    I'll take a look in the "Das Deutsche Lichtbild 1937" to see what the photographers included in the book used for the published photos:

    Rodinal 1:40

    Eastman DK 76

    David-rezept 1:3

    Tetenal Emofin

    Agfa-Feinkorn 15

    Rodinal 1:50

    Rodinal 1:20

    Kodak D-76

    Tetenal Ultrafin

    Perutz-Feinkorn

    Final

    Parvofin 1:1

    Egalisin

    Mikrolin

    Perinal 1:20

    Leicanol

    Tetenal Ultrafin S.F.

    Micros

    And some just bescrived as Metol-Hydrochinon, Glyzin, Pyro-Metol, Paraphenylendiamin, Pyrogallol, Glyzin-Pottasche, Glyzin Standentwickler. Windisch developer is also mentioned in another of the yearbooks.

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    Some more from "Das Deutsche Lichtbild 1935":

    Finaccord

    Hauff-Glyzinbrei 1:40

    Planol

    Hauff Neol 1:6

    Brenzkatechinentwickler (Catechol developer)

    Metol-Adurol

    Kodak Pyramidon 1:4,5, Tankentwickler D-7

    Metodux

    Glyzin + Rodinal

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    Now can you post the Formulae, in full detail please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igor Savchenko View Post
    What film developer (for roll film and 35 mm) was most commonly used in Germany in 1930s (among those formulated in Germany) and could be considered a kind of standard/ benchmark as D-76 in the US and ID-11 in UK? Could it be Agfa-12?
    Your response is highly appreciated...
    I don't think there was a benchmark standard developer in Germany at the time. Rodinal and various MQ developers were the most popular. In the german photo books and magazines from the 30's I've never seen any tests or comparsions like we are used to today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    Now can you post the Formulae, in full detail please
    No!

    Many of the photographers published in the "Deutsche Lichtbild" books mixed their own developers, and just called them "Metol-Hydrochinon", "Glyzin", "Metol-Soda", and for some strange reason they also wrote the dilution they used, 1:6 for example. How important is THAT when we have no clue what recipe they used. One of them just called his film developer "borax".

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