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    Glad to see this thread, as I have done some recent work with Agfa MC111 as well. Thought it might be my own processing. I like the paper for toning, really do like the way it tones in a combo of KRST and Viradon..did notice the same thing with KRST, started off with a rich dark black, that moves to eggplant almost before I knew it, which is why the Viradon, ended up liked the results. Have just started a little printing with some Forte and really like it, little better whites but tones like MC111 - and is less $$. Was using Ilford MGIV and wanted to just see if there was another paper I liked as much..turns out there was.
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    DUH! My dislexia attacked again

    I liked the way AGFA MCC/MCP gets the midtones right, then a boost using a filter 5 (split-filtering) gets me there.
    I found that Ethol LPD works real good with MCC/MCP, and the dilution does not affect the contrast that much but gives it a diferent tonality (very slight change)

    Quote Originally Posted by John McCallum
    If you meant the AGFA - yes definately. i found the base is definately not as white, and I think this may add to the appearance of less contrast also. Makes it difficult to get a glowing print by comparison. I now prefer not to use it for some of my prints. A little frustating sometimes having to use a higher contrast filtration with the consequential loss of print detail.
    PhotoMC, what combo of KRST/Viradon are you using?
    Something similar to the old viradon / kodak polytoner?

    Quote Originally Posted by photomc
    Glad to see this thread, as I have done some recent work with Agfa MC111 as well. Thought it might be my own processing. I like the paper for toning, really do like the way it tones in a combo of KRST and Viradon..did notice the same thing with KRST, started off with a rich dark black, that moves to eggplant almost before I knew it, which is why the Viradon, ended up liked the results. Have just started a little printing with some Forte and really like it, little better whites but tones like MC111 - and is less $$. Was using Ilford MGIV and wanted to just see if there was another paper I liked as much..turns out there was
    Here in NC, Forte is far more expensive than AGFA... I got a MCC 8x10 box for $60
    Mama took my APX away.....

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    Kodak's Rapid Fix does not have the hardener included. The hardener is sold separately and can be added if needed or desired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titrisol
    PhotoMC, what combo of KRST/Viradon are you using?
    Something similar to the old viradon / kodak polytoner?
    This was the hard way, seperate processing - toned in KRST, processed and washed - then into viradon. Wish I could find some of the old viradon or polytoner. Ann, if you see this what is your recommendation? Seems like I remeber you talking about it in another thread.
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    yep, I think it is silvergrain.org that has formulas to mix viradon+KRST and get a polytoner like toner.

    I'll have to wait 2 or 3 weeks before I can go back into the Darkroom.... we are moving to a new place and I won;t have a basement anymore
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