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    Printing Pyrocat-HD Negatives on VC Paper

    I just tried to print some TMAX-400 negatives that where developed in Pyrocat-HD on Kodak Polymax Fine Art paper.

    Not what I was expecting. The prints are "flat and lifeless". Even printed with a #5 setting it looks like it was printed at #2.

    Fresh chemicals, fresh paper.

    Any suggestions?

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    I use both Ilford MG and Agfa MG. Both of them are actually quite contrasty with my APX and FP4 negs developed in PC-HD.
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    I just checked the box of paper and it says "Develop before 10-04".

    Close date. I wonder if it's a bad box?

    I'm going to print one of my Xtol negatives that I know prints well on it tomorrow night to see how it turns out.

    I'm also going to print the Pyrocat-HD negatives on Oriental Seagull to check the results.

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    Have you measured the density range of your negatives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Miller
    Have you measured the density range of your negatives?
    Donald,

    No I haven't. I didn't think that it would be accurate using a "regular" densitometer on Pyro negatives. My X-Rite 361T should be here by the end of the week though.

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    I understand. If the paper is not fogged then the problem is probably due to the negative DR. A visual channel reading with a black and white densitometer should be near 1.05 not accounting for the pyro stain. With the pyro stain effect that should be up near 1.25

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Miller
    I understand. If the paper is not fogged then the problem is probably due to the negative DR. A visual channel reading with a black and white densitometer should be near 1.05 not accounting for the pyro stain. With the pyro stain effect that should be up near 1.25
    O.K. I just measured one of the negatives with my "regular" densitometer and the DR is around .65

    Looks like that's the problem.

    Thanks Donald!

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    What's your developing time, Jim? I find that using Pyrocat with TMY in a Jobo (continuous agitation), my development times are around 10 min at 68F

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Duffy
    What's your developing time, Jim? I find that using Pyrocat with TMY in a Jobo (continuous agitation), my development times are around 10 min at 68F
    Tom, are you using Expert drums? Amdhow much solution are you using? I'm 2/3 of the way done processing my pcat/tmy/jobo/azo film test. I'm doing it at 24c though. 500ml of solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Duffy
    What's your developing time, Jim? I find that using Pyrocat with TMY in a Jobo (continuous agitation), my development times are around 10 min at 68F
    Tom,

    They where processed in a SideKick (Like Jobo) at a setting of 20rpm.

    The processing temp can not be adjusted on the sidekick (the only think I do not like about it) and is set at 75d.

    Processed for 10-minutes (=14min @ 68d) in Pyrocat-HD 1:1:100

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