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    Quote Originally Posted by jandc
    Have you ever tried Foma 200?
    Have you ever tried Foma 200? It is a T-grain film. They have the technology to make just about anything. Fotokemika makes a Tech Pan like film. Almost anything is possible. In the end though it doesn't matter because Kodak T-Max and Ilford and Agfa will be gone.

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    I would continue to buy whatever products you like best. Trying to influence the outcome of "The Last Manufacturer Standing" contest is an exercise in futility. I'll continue to buy from a variety of sources, based on my evaluation of best of breed. This list currently includes Kodak, Ilford and Fuji.

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    Foma 200 is a beautiful film, but it's hardly interchangeable with TMX or TMY. Even though it's a T-grain film, it looks a lot more like a film from the 1930s. Foma 200 is to T-Max 100 as Alvin Langdon Coburn is B&W video.

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    I did not mean to imply that Foma 200 was equivalent to TMax. The point I was trying to make is that the technology to make T Grain films exists in these small factories. This leaves open a lot of possibilities for the future which are as yet untapped. The sky is not really falling.

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    my concern is that once the suppliers dwindle to just a few the prices will begin to climb. Even though the remaining factories will be doing lots more volume than they have done in the past. another opec.
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    I got a couple bricks of and tested Efke 25 hoping I could replace my long lost love Agfa 25. It's not even close. To be fair though I tested using my existing process and did not test what may be best for the film. Any suggestions this direction would be appreciated.

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    David,

    When you say that Foma 200 is like a film from the 1930's do you mean that it isn't panchromatic or something else? I have not tried Foma 200 simply because I thought it would be just another T grain film without any "character". Am I missing out on a good film?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricR
    my concern is that once the suppliers dwindle to just a few the prices will begin to climb. Even though the remaining factories will be doing lots more volume than they have done in the past. another opec.
    In the world market place the winner often takes all. We as consumers tend to purchase those items that are most affordable and accessible (and in that order). Companies that win the greater share of business quickly gain ever greater advantages in price and distribution over their competitors. Eventually leading to a market place dominated by a very few companies.

    Think Miejers and walmart...

    The down side for the consumer is that the loss of competition leads to less innovation, variety (Tmax will replace -- fill in the blank -- film) and of course without competition the manufacturer no longer needs to be price competitive.

    What we could wind up with is film costing 4.99 a roll (or whatever the marketeers feel is the magic price point) regardless of how cheaply made or grossly marked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcallow
    ... What we could wind up with is film costing 4.99 a roll (or whatever the marketeers feel is the magic price point) regardless of how cheaply made or grossly marked up.
    I think it was Black and White Photography Magazine (might be wrong) that suggested a few months ago that film will survive but we will become a specialist market and would see price increases in the coming months. With the potential demise of Ilford we may see that price increase being much higher than expected.

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    Mmmm some analogue photographers can be fooled all of the time etc.
    Digital is best taken with a grain of silver.

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