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    Quote Originally Posted by Chilean Red
    [size=1]Is highly probable that the breakdown of Ilford has its origin in years of bad management and bad financial administration.

    Once again the workers have paid the ultimate cost.[/size]

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    I (and I expect, a lot of the employees, both past and present) could not agree with you more!
    We are still completely shell shocked by what has happened. We had no warning that this was coming. The receivers arrived on the Monday and by Friday half the workforce was gone. Also, the fact that the receivers have been brought in means that redundancy payouts are paid by the government not the company - i.e. a whole lot less than the workers deserved!

    We are now for sale in the Financial Times...... so if anyone has a few million to spare, please come and buy us!

    Thanks for all your kind words throughout the forum - we appreciate them!
    Just the person I've been looking for! Just between you and I can you go in and grab me a whole bunch of film and fb paper? Don't over do it as to not attract attention but a little every day would be nice. There is a case of 2 buck chuck from Trador Joes in it for ya. By the way, this is a secret.

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    ..................more than my job's worth mate, sorry !!

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    From another site, found the following info:
    The word on the street is that they will continue to make films and paper out of the Mobberly plant, near Manchester, as long as it makes financial sense. About 300 people have gotten the pink slip last week, but the skeleton crew to operate manufacturing is still there, research got the ax.
    If there is such a thing as an intelligent buyer for a photo paper company, may they recognize the importance of knowledge/experience & quickly re-hire former employees.
    van Huyck Photo
    "Progress is only a direction, and it's often the wrong direction"

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    Quote Originally Posted by doughowk
    There has been an interesting discussion on Pure-Silver list about how much of the expertize in the making of photo film, paper etc.. is lost in these short-sighted downsizing operations. Ilford may make themselves more attractive for a buyer but only at the loss of technical skills. If this is an example of the invisible hand (& intelligence) of free-market capitalism, think I'll vote socialist ;-)
    This is kind of long, but hunorous nonetheless...

    A cowboy was herding his herd in a remote pasture when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced out of a dust cloud towards him.

    The driver, a young man in a Brioni suit, Gucci shoes, Ray Ban sunglasses and YSL tie, leans out the window and asks the cowboy, "If I tell you exactly how many cows and calves you have in your herd, will you give me a calf?"

    The cowboy looks at the man, obviously a yuppie, then looks at his peacefully grazing herd and calmly answers, "Sure. Why not?" The yuppie parks his car, whips out his Dell notebook computer, connects it to his AT&T cell phone, surfs to a NASA page on the Internet, where he calls up a GPS satellite navigation system to get an exact fix on his location which he then feeds to another NASA satellite that scans the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo. The young man then opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshop and exports it to an image processing facility in Hamburg, Germany.

    Within seconds, he receives an email on his Palm Pilot that the image has been processed and the data stored. He then accesses a MS- SQL database through an ODBC connected Excel spreadsheet with hundreds of complex formulas. He uploads all of this data via an email on his Blackberry and, after a few minutes, receives a response.

    Finally, he prints out a full-color, 150- page report on his hi-tech, miniaturized HP LaserJet printer and finally turns to the cowboy and says, "You have exactly 1586 cows and calves."

    "That's right. Well, I guess you can take one of my calves," says the cowboy.

    He watches the young man select one of the animals and looks on amused as the young man stuffs it into the trunk of his car.

    Then the cowboy says to the young man, "Hey, if I can tell you exactly what your business is, will you give me back my calf?"

    The young man thinks about it for a second and then says, "Okay, why not?"

    "You're a consultant." says the cowboy.

    "Wow! That's correct," says the yuppie, "but how did you guess that?"

    "No guessing required." answered the cowboy. "You showed up here even though nobody called you; you want to get paid for an answer I already knew, to a question I never asked; and you don't know anything about my business...

    Now give me back my dog."
    Tom

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    [size=1]the all new darkplanet photoblog[/size][size=1]
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcello.brussard

    Is highly probable that the breakdown of Ilford has its origin in years of bad management and bad financial administration.

    Once again the workers have paid the ultimate cost.
    Not so much the management, they made the best of a bad fist for decades. The blame for the start of the fall can be put down to HM Government for 2 factors;
    During WW2 Ilford were forced to put their research into colour technology on hold and concentrate on monochrome materials of use to the war effort (aerial, infra-red etc).
    After the war when they had picked up on colour again, (early '60's I think) they had to abandon their colour print system, as the monopolies commission would not condone a process that needed 'back to base' processing, and could not be operated by private labs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiseowl
    330 jobs go at Ilford Imaging

    Nearly half the staff at Ilford Imaging lost their jobs yesterday in a move aimed at stemming losses at the troubled photographic materials supplier. Receivers Grant Thornton said the 330 job cuts increased the chances of finding a buyer for the Cheshire-based firm. Redundancies were spread across all departments to trim the workforce to 400.
    Maybe we ought to be talking the situation up a bit more - it's receivership, after all, which is rather different to liquidation. Having heard that chemical manufacturing (ie PQ Universal & Hypam etc) at Mobberley had now gone I feared the worst, but spoke to the Ilford UK head of marketing. Apparently the chemical manufacturing will be outsourced from another supplier, (and there must be a few of those who have spare capacity) and is out to tender at this moment.

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