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    I use Neo Office with my Mac, and the charts look identical, even though I too have some err messages.

    Not sure if they are the same, but certainly not how the OO chart looks.
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    The Open Office graphs have the same co-ordinates it's just the Blue lines that are missing or in the wrong location, so the syntax error/differences are slight.

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    Ralph,
    Would incident metering charts be too much to ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    The Open Office graphs have the same co-ordinates it's just the Blue lines that are missing or in the wrong location, so the syntax error/differences are slight.

    Ian
    Part of the missing chart lines problem is that some are set to 'invisible' (I expect to improve readability) and some import as the color white, which is also the background color. The syntax problem is often just a case of switching out commas, semicolons, or colons when importing excel to OOo.

    I've switched to LibreOffice now that Oracle has bought out Sun and required copyright assignment to Oracle for all code contributed to openoffice.org. LibreOffice is a fork of openoffice.org, and most of the main developers outside of Oracle/Sun have jumped ship to LibreOffice. Many of the main linux distributions, NeoOffice, and other variants will be shipping LibreOffice in future.

    Release candidate version 2 of the first LibreOffice, version 3.3 is now available from http://www.documentfoundation.org/

    Sun was very slow to accept outside contributions to the code, including corrections, improvements to .xls and .doc import, and cleaning out of legacy code, so it didn't progress very rapidly under Sun. Oracle is expected to be no better, perhaps worse. Oracle owns the openoffice.org trademark and won't let the fork use that name, hence LibreOffice under a new aegis and with improved freedom from special corporate interests.

    I've kludged a 'fix' for the time vs. average gradient numbers and graph in the summary sheet, but don't have time for the N-development vs time right now. Don't ask for the sheet yet, it's too messy. I may explain the fix time vs. gradient fix when I have more time for a longer post.

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    Last edited by Lee L; 01-04-2011 at 01:36 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Thanks, Lee. You rock, as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozphoto View Post
    I use Neo Office with my Mac, and the charts look identical, even though I too have some err messages.

    Not sure if they are the same, but certainly not how the OO chart looks.
    This one looks right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squinonescolon View Post
    Ralph,
    Would incident metering charts be too much to ask?
    What is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonjour22 View Post
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    For 4x5 sheet film, Use TP4x5-31. It is 31 Step Projection Scale 4" x 5".
    OK, I admit that I haven't read the book. How would I go about exposing the film with this scale?
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    I did not realize how many different versions of knock-off Offices were out there. I am also angered by the .xls vs .xlsx trouble, and that's how far I go with supplying different versions. However, if someone can supply working copies for other software packages, I will work with them to make them compatible and will post them alongside mine.
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    Sorry. I meant, in BTZS and in one of your appendices you mentioned incident metering, I would love to try it. But we would need (I think) 2 more graphs:
    sbr vs iso and sbr vs development.

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