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    Black Walnut Developer

    Has anyone ever used Black Walnut shell stain as a developer? I know it has tannin, quinones, and even ascorbic acid in it. Seems like it might work.

    And I have a lot of it on hand right now....

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    Not as developer, how are you planning on dissolving the quinones/tannins?

    Quote Originally Posted by wdemere
    Has anyone ever used Black Walnut shell stain as a developer? I know it has tannin, quinones, and even ascorbic acid in it. Seems like it might work.

    And I have a lot of it on hand right now....

    Thanks,

    William
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    Quote Originally Posted by titrisol
    Not as developer, how are you planning on dissolving the quinones/tannins?
    I'm not planning anything at this point, I just remember someone using a bucket of swamp water to develop film and wondered if it had ever been done with black walnut.

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    it could... the indiand in my country use black walnut as textile dye

    They soak the shells in water (hot) and let them stand for a few hours.
    I'd add some washing soda, and develop some film for 30-40 minutes.... fix and see what happens
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    Quote Originally Posted by wdemere
    Has anyone ever used Black Walnut shell stain as a developer? I know it has tannin, quinones, and even ascorbic acid in it. Seems like it might work.

    And I have a lot of it on hand right now....

    Thanks,

    William
    It will work, I think someone on this forum used tree bark for developer. I would say put them in water, let them soak for 24 hours, and the boil them until you have half the water.....you just might get a nice stainning developer.

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    D´OH.

    Few weeks ago I made some walnut confect and got liiiiitres of that brew.

    For clarification, let me point out the recipe, a russian/armenian one - you take green, young, soft walnuts and pick them with a needle. Soak them in Water for two weeks and change the water on a daily base (it gets brown and soaked with tannins). Then you make a syrup of water, sugar, spices, boil it and pour it over the walnuts. Put them in glasses, seal them, leave them for 6months, a year, whatever.

    Tastes great, you eat them with the thin, young shells and you can use the syrup to sweeten your tea... I learned it last year in Armenia.. yum. Can´t wait to break the first seal. .-)

    Well, I guess that water would have made a good opportunity to test it. But it´s too late... the water stains pretty much, it even stained a ceramic plate I put in the tray to push the nuts beyond the surface.
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    That may have been me... I tried a series of primitive 'black water' developers.... Arbutus tree (both boiled bark and fermented leaf) , reduced swamp water...... Now we are in grape harvest and I shall be trying a fermented grapeskin mash. Jorge is correct.... boiling your mixture helps as well as letting it ferment and evaporate off.... A little film overexposure doesn't hurt either and do increase those development times.

    There is a certain bizarre satisfaction in developing film in the distilled essences of your subject..... (mind you I would probably avoid the concept if you photograph people).

    Cheers Annie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annie
    ....Now we are in grape harvest and I shall be trying a fermented grapeskin mash.
    I'm drinking some now myself. I should be fully developed by about 10pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfwhitaker
    I'm drinking some now myself. I should be fully developed by about 10pm.

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    Of course pyrogallol is (or at least was traditionally) made from the galls on oak trees. Does anyone know why it was the galls (growths) rather than just wood/bark/branches?
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